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byAnonymous Coward writes:
Holy cow! $1,699 to $3,799" for "10TB or 12TB" of storage?
Case with 8 internal bays: $40
600 Watt Power supply: $35
MB with 8 SATA3 ports: $115
2.5gig dual core processor: $73
8 2TB drives: $800
1 Gig of RAM: $30
Total: $1093, for 16TB of storage. Yeah, yeah, you need one of them as a spare drive for redundancy, and you need an OS. You also need a few minutes to assemble and install. But for that price? Why pay twice as much? Hell yeah, roll my own, baby!
byJoe_Dragon ( 2206452 ) writes:
That PSU is to cheap at least get a $50+ one and don't just go for high watts.
get 2-4 GB ram mini should only be about $50-$60 for good 8 GB DDR 3 you want at least dual channel ram.
8 sata ports you may want to get a pci-e raid card / sata card. Maybe even SAS.
redundancy you may want raid 6 on a raid card and not on board fake raid and most south bridges only have 6 ports any ways.
Also some low end MB only have 10/100'.
bygman003 ( 1693318 ) writes:
That PSU is to cheap at least get a $50+ one and don't just go for high watts.
Uh, what? I can understanding criticizing a specific PSU brand as being too unreliable or low-quality, but come on! Just saying "any PSU less than $__ is crap, you need to spend at least $__" makes you sound like a classic Conspicuous Consumer.
get 2-4 GB ram mini should only be about $50-$60 for good 8 GB DDR 3 you want at least dual channel ram.
This is a NAS, not a server. Half a gig would be sufficient, honestly - I've run some with 256MB. One gig is plenty, unless you want to keep files on a RAMdisk.
8 sata ports you may want to get a pci-e raid card / sata card. Maybe even SAS.
When you're just building a home/small office NAS, you don't need a high-performance RAID card - software RA
byJoe_Dragon ( 2206452 ) writes:
That PSU is to cheap at least get a $50+ one and don't just go for high watts.
Uh, what? I can understanding criticizing a specific PSU brand as being too unreliable or low-quality, but come on! Just saying "any PSU less than $__ is crap, you need to spend at least $__" makes you sound like a classic Conspicuous Consumer.
ok but don't cheap out.
get 2-4 GB ram mini should only be about $50-$60 for good 8 GB DDR 3 you want at least dual channel ram.
This is a NAS, not a server. Half a gig would be sufficient, honestly - I've run some with 256MB. One gig is plenty, unless you want to keep files on a RAMdisk.
ok but for $30 you can get 2gb ram
8 sata ports you may want to get a pci-e raid card / sata card. Maybe even SAS.
When you're just building a home/small office NAS, you don't need a high-performance RAID card - software RAID is more than enough. Especially considering the price of those things.
maybe but not all boards have 8 ports and some that's 6 chipset and the other from a add on sata chip also the build in software / fake raid likely will not work across 2 different chips like that. And even with 8 ports you still need 1 for the OS disk or you can mix the OS with the data drives.
redundancy you may want raid 6 on a raid card and not on board fake raid and most south bridges only have 6 ports any ways.
8 hard drives is not enough to justify RAID 6, unless they're EXTREMELY unreliable drives. Especially since that cuts down your storage capacity down to 12TB - not that good.
RAID 6 is only needed when it's possible for a drive to fail, and then for another to fail while the array is still recovering. There's no point in doing it with only 8 drives.
8 drives in raid 0 is a major risk. Raid 5 uses less space.
Also some low end MB only have 10/100'.
True. But then again, how many switches and computers are still only 10/100? Maybe you don't, but I still work daily with stuff that maxes out at Fast Ethernet.
Plus, a $115 mobo isn't "low-end", at least by my definition. It's a fair assumption that if it has 8 SATA ports, you're going to have 10/100/1000 Ethernet.
The case needs to have room for 8 HDD's + a os disk and good cooling.
bygman003 ( 1693318 ) writes:
ok but for $30 you can get 2gb ram
Yeah? For $30 I can also add a nice SD/MicroSD card reader. And it would be just as beneficial to the system. Just because RAM is cheap, doesn't mean you need to cram absolutely everything full of it.
maybe but not all boards have 8 ports and some that's 6 chipset and the other from a add on sata chip also the build in software / fake raid likely will not work across 2 different chips like that. And even with 8 ports you still need 1 for the OS disk or you can mix the OS with the data drives.
Once X79 comes out, you'll have 10 ports, naturally. In any case, software RAID, at least under Linux, can handle disks on any widely incompatible set of chipsets. As well as separating the OS onto a disk partition on just one drive.
8 drives in raid 0 is a major risk. Raid 5 uses less space.
That would be relevant, if we were talking about RAID 0. RAID 5 and 6 are ident
byBLKMGK ( 34057 ) writes:
unRAID. Boot from USB, uses a standard albeit not common FS (ReiserFS), only loses one disk to parity, and losing multiple disks doesn't kill the entire storage array. Can host a max of something like 16 disks although I've never gone past 11 on either of my systems. No OS maintenance although if you add on lots of stuff you can get into murky territory. Needs no more than maybe a gig of memory and a SLOW CPU. CPU will NOT be your bottleneck and Celeron or single core whatevers work just fine. A case that c
byJoe_Dragon ( 2206452 ) writes:
Celeron or single core + boot from USB + software raid is not a good idea. At least boot from a sata HDD or maybe firewire
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byBLKMGK ( 34057 ) writes:
And WHY pray tell is that? Been doing it for well over 5 years and have gone through more than one USB stick without issue - my current stick is 2 years old. Boot takes about 2 minutes and only ever occurs when I upgrade software or a drive. The USB stick isn't written to during that time and only stores the OS to boot to RAM disk and a single config file. The image on the stick is standard from my vendor and the only thing unique I need backup anywhere is the config file - it's maybe 10K or I can print out
bypnutjam ( 523990 ) writes:
My NAS runs NX, so I can pull up a published firefox, or do bit torrent. Anything I surf in my published firefox leaves no trace on the PC or the DNS servers of the site I am at. They only see an encrypted tunnel to my home PC. A full desktop gives me alot of flexibility at little cost.
byAnonymous Coward writes:
Yeah... Not really keen on running desktop apps on my main storage device. Having that environment crash and damage data I care about is just too risky. That said, it's doable with unRaid and some guys even use them as VM servers....
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