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1.2.2 Software Freedom Day 2016
1.2.3 Tax software
1.2.4 Other stuff
1.2.5 More SFD
1.3 Text channel
Location: Mumble
Agenda
Minutes
Participants : Greg Knittl , Bob Jonkman , Sergio Durigan Junior , Stephen Paul Weber , Blaise Alleyne , Daniel Villarreal.
Audio recording : http://podcasts.libreplanet.ca/libreplanetontario-2016-07-24.ogg (73 MBytes, 1h30m)
Domain names
Bob Jonkman and Sergio Durigan Jr. have arranged domain name redirection:
Software Freedom Day 2016
(Saturday, 17 September 2016)
Venue?
Raul Suarez may have a venue in Kitchener-Waterloo
Stephen Paul Weber can arrange Kwartzlab as a venue
Some concern about target audience:
Outreach for entry level presentations?
Technical presentations for hard-core GNU/Linux users?
Demonstrations fall in between, appeal to neither
Everyone has seen "What is Free Software" presentation, but needed for new people
Outreach needed for people who have no understanding of Free Software and Free Culture at all
People don't know that Freedom exists
This is our target audience!
People don't know that software can be made to do what they want, it's not like a microwave
Software comparisons may not be an effective way to promote Free Software
How to talk philosophy? More important, how to attract new people?
Our theme will be "How to convince people that Free Software exists, is legal, and is available to ordinary people"
To attract new people we can work on the streets, attracting passersby
Go to where people are, don't expect them to come to us
People who come to rooms are already the converted
Stephen Paul Weber does "Libre Streets" for Free Culture
Blaise Alleyne does campus outreach
Can have a room event as a follow up after street outreach
Answer questions like "How do you make money?", "Is it legal?"
University campus is more welcoming than a street corner for street activism
Follow-up venue can be at a nearby coffee shop
Need some brochures to remind street teamers of core points, also a take-along item for people
Three prong event:
Prep the street team with talking points, &c.
Go on the street to communicate the message of Software Freedom, and invite people to:
Follow up event with a presentation, Q&A
Request an e-mail address for follow-up
E-mail is good for in-depth follow-up, people don't give up their e-mail address easily
Discussion mailing list, not a newsletter or announcement list
If there are few signups (10 ) then a personal follow may be better than a list
Needs followup, perhaps a Mumble meeting just for SFD
Tax software
Gregg Knittl has followed up with CRA
still asking questions
trying to find out what information CRA has for developers
Need: Defining and capturing tax calculation
Crowdsource them? Too much for Gregg Knittl to do himself
Gregg Knittl thinks CRA will not provide the tax calculations, will only verify a developed program
Forms like T1 are available, we may need to extract calculations from these
Wiki page has been updated: https://libreplanet.org/wiki/Group:LibrePlanet_Ontario/FLCTPSP
Gregg Knittl is waiting to receive test cases from CRA
If tax software cannot be made with source code available then we may need to switch to political lobbying rather than writing softare
Bob Jonkman's accountant was not interested in getting Free Software tax software, already uses proprietary software
Other stuff
More SFD
Gregg Knittl suggests People might be interested in Privacy, Encryption
Other tools, eg. Raw Therapee
Bob Jonkman has done several presentations on security, privacy and encryption (at last year's SFD)
Blaise Alleyne suggests using the Wiki and mailing list to organize SFD, no Mumble meeting
Bob Jonkman and Daniel Villarreal discuss strategies for attracting people to SFD
Text channel
[8:50 PM] Welcome to Mumble.
[8:50 PM] Connecting to server libreplanetbr.org.
[8:50 PM] Connected.
[8:50 PM] Welcome message:
Welcome to this server running Murmur.
Enjoy your stay!
[9:23 PM] Daniel: hi
[9:23 PM] Daniel: yes
[9:24 PM] Daniel: Daniel Villarreal here.
[9:24 PM] Daniel: howdy howdy
[9:38 PM] Daniel: event + message + enthusiasm = ?
[9:38 PM] sergiodj: guys, I guess I'll have to step out unfortunately. sorry about that.
[9:38 PM] Daniel: bye
[9:39 PM] balleyne: later
[9:39 PM] sergiodj: bob, just to make sure, what is the domain that the cname should be pointing to?
[9:39 PM] BobJonkman: Thanx Sergio! TTYL
[9:39 PM] BobJonkman: libreplanet.sobac.com
[9:39 PM] sergiodj: thanks
[9:39 PM] sergiodj: alright, ttyl!
[9:39 PM] BobJonkman: so podcasts.libreplanet.ca => libreplanet.sobac.com
[9:50 PM] Daniel: maybe IRC chat?
[9:53 PM] Daniel: I wouldn't bother asking for email addresses.
[9:53 PM] Daniel: You're asking for commitment.
[9:56 PM] singpolyma: give people the opportunity that fits them specifically best
[9:57 PM] Daniel: Nope.
[9:59 PM] Daniel: Were the tax people forthcoming and easy to communicate with ?
[9:59 PM] Daniel: lol
[10:00 PM] Daniel: maybe you can ask them for a flowchart?
[10:01 PM] Daniel: Can't hurt to ask?
[10:01 PM] Daniel: ok
[10:01 PM] Daniel: definitely
[10:02 PM] Daniel: I think there's a lot of interest, but it's a daunting task.
[10:02 PM] BobJonkman: https://libreplanet.org/wiki/Group:LibrePlanet_Ontario/FLCTPSP
[10:02 PM] Daniel: Thanks for your efforts
[10:13 PM] singpolyma: https://libreplanet.org/wiki/Group:LibrePlanet_Ontario/Software_Freedom_Day_2016
[10:17 PM] singpolyma: I expect most software gets >60% rewritten every year
[10:17 PM] singpolyma: s/software/tax software
[10:18 PM] BobJonkman: https://quitter.no/notice/1974053
[10:20 PM] Daniel: thanks all.
[10:20 PM] singpolyma: Fun fact unrelated to the discussion: my children's book got randomly featured on https://unglue.it/ !
[10:24 PM] balleyne: we're pushing 10:30, I've gotta run very soon!
[10:26 PM] singpolyma: I like async for sure. so long as we actually do it ;)
[10:26 PM] singpolyma: sync forces us to act
[10:26 PM] singpolyma: For sure
[10:26 PM] singpolyma: agreed
[10:27 PM] Daniel: thanks. good night
[10:27 PM] Daniel: uh huh.
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