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Group: LibrePlanet Ontario/Meeting Notes/2017-04-24

 

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Contents

  • 1.2 Upcoming Events
  • 1.3 Minutes
  • 1.4 Text Channel
  • Monday, 24 April 2017, 9:00pm EDT

    Location: Mumble

    Agenda

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    Upcoming Events


    Minutes

    Participants: Greg Knittl, Bob Jonkman, and Logan Streondj (greenmonk) and Daniel Villarreal in the text channel.
    Audio Recording: http://podcasts.libreplanet.ca/libreplanetontario-2017-04-24.ogg (Size: 37.74 MBytes - Duration: 40m57s)

    Text Channel

     
    [8:12 PM] Welcome to Mumble.
    [8:12 PM] Connecting to server libreplanetbr.org.
    [8:12 PM] Connected.
    [8:12 PM] Welcome message:
    Welcome to this server running Murmur.
    Enjoy your stay!
    [8:56 PM] gknittl@sympatico.ca connected.
    [8:59 PM] Recording started
    [9:02 PM] BobJonkman: The agenda: https://libreplanet.org/wiki/Group:LibrePlanet_Ontario#Next_Meeting
    [9:05 PM] DanielVillarreal connected.
    [9:05 PM] greenmonk connected.
    [9:06 PM] BobJonkman: https://lists.libreplanet.org/archive/html/libreplanet-discuss/2017-03/msg00066.html
    [9:10 PM] DanielVillarreal: Hi all!
    [9:10 PM] DanielVillarreal: I can hear ...
    [9:11 PM] DanielVillarreal: :-)
    [9:14 PM] DanielVillarreal: Like using awk ?
    [9:19 PM] greenmonk: well, I'm working on Pyash, a programming language based on human grammar.
    [9:21 PM] DanielVillarreal: yes.
    [9:22 PM] DanielVillarreal: Hoping to make it out to ERK someday.
    [9:23 PM] DanielVillarreal: ditto that
    [9:26 PM] DanielVillarreal: Thanks!
    [9:30 PM] greenmonk: hey, just wanted to mention in relation to the language for tax/government software. the human grammar programming language I'm working on
    [9:31 PM] greenmonk: oops, sorry g2g, I'll probably have to do the mailing list thing
    [9:32 PM] greenmonk: okay, back baby is restless
    [9:32 PM] greenmonk: the youngest is 6 months, older one will be 4 soon
    [9:33 PM] greenmonk: yep, today I woke up really early, like 5:30 to do some programming before my son woke up around 7
    [9:34 PM] greenmonk: so the programming language is generic, but it could be used for taxes and such because it has a vocabulary of around 8,000 words which are easily translated into 30+ human langauges
    [9:34 PM] DanielVillarreal: I like to discuss human languages.
    [9:35 PM] greenmonk: well, I have basic C being output right now, still have to add a few more cosntructs to support ANSI C.
    [9:35 PM] DanielVillarreal: I've been polishing up my scripts for using exiftool, using perl
    [9:36 PM] DanielVillarreal: lol
    [9:36 PM] greenmonk: it compiles to OpenCL C as well.
    [9:36 PM] greenmonk: hmm, I might be able to get the microphone working hold on
    [9:37 PM] DanielVillarreal: Trying to get my son to using Linux. I need to set up a system for my little girl. She's almost four. She just got some cowgirl boots.
    [9:38 PM] greenmonk: @daniel I found pocketchip, is a full linux system but portable like a game console
    [9:38 PM] DanielVillarreal: thanks
    [9:39 PM] DanielVillarreal: Fedora
    [9:39 PM] greenmonk: I'm downloading ubuntu 17.04 right now
    [9:40 PM] greenmonk: I'm hoping on using my programming language to participate in the General Intelligence programming challenge. Don't know if anyone else here is interested in AI.
    [9:41 PM] DanielVillarreal: I'm a big fan of SystemRescueCD for my toolkit. Had issues w/ latest version of Tinycore.
    [9:42 PM] DanielVillarreal: I'm interested in AI... I'm looking to the future applications.
    [9:42 PM] greenmonk: http://general-ai-challenge.org/
    [9:42 PM] DanielVillarreal: Thanks
    [9:43 PM] greenmonk: it is by a millionaire game developer from Prague, Chezh republic, rewards for first round is 12 thousand dollars or thereabouts
    [9:43 PM] greenmonk: 50 thousand total, the winner gets 12
    [9:44 PM] greenmonk: american dollars i beive
    [9:44 PM] greenmonk: believe*
    [9:44 PM] greenmonk: Well tax accountants are one of those jobs that has the highest likelyhood of being automated.
    [9:45 PM] greenmonk: there is already a lot of tax software, much of it free that can help file your taxes for you.
    [9:46 PM] greenmonk: one of the issues to be overcome with open source linux tax software is cost of certification.
    [9:48 PM] greenmonk: yeah, I use libre for libre
    [9:49 PM] greenmonk: in my programming langauge, there actually isn't words for "free" and "libre", but there is liberty and freeware
    [9:50 PM] greenmonk: I can't add words, it was scripted, by translating a set of 39,000 english words into 30+ of the most popular human langauges. Then I had it take out overly ambigious words as well as homonyms.
    [9:50 PM] greenmonk: at that point was left with 8,000 words
    [9:51 PM] DanielVillarreal: Is Klingon one of the most popular languages ? ;-)
    [9:52 PM] greenmonk: https://gitlab.com/liberit/pyac is the current version, earlier one can be downloaded at sourceforge
    [9:53 PM] greenmonk: https://sourceforge.net/projects/spel/
    [9:54 PM] greenmonk: Klingon is specifically designed to be difficult for humans, using the least common word order and consonant clusters
    [9:55 PM] greenmonk: here is a PDF about spal https://gitlab.com/liberit/pyac/blob/master/documentation/spal.pdf
    [9:56 PM] greenmonk: Pyash (SPAL/SPEL) is specifically designed to be easy for humans and computers..
    [9:57 PM] greenmonk: it uses the most common word orders and letters, and consonant clusters, also is easily parseable even without spaces (for streams of speech).
    [9:57 PM] greenmonk: also it is easy to translate between different langauges, so people don't have to learn the Pyash vocabulary, but can simply use their native vocabulary in a more regularized manner.
    [9:58 PM] greenmonk: that sounds great, hopefully can get the microphone working by then
    [9:58 PM] DanielVillarreal: well, this could be a very interesting discussion in a local pub...
    [9:59 PM] greenmonk: I don't drink (Buddhist), but other public places good
    [9:59 PM] DanielVillarreal: We could have kombucha tea
    [10:00 PM] DanielVillarreal: Thanks!
    [10:00 PM] greenmonk: good talk thanks :-)
    [10:00 PM] greenmonk: good night
    [10:00 PM] DanielVillarreal: Good night
    [10:00 PM] Recording stopped
    
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