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byMikkeles ( 698461 ) writes:
'...is it time to concentrate on consolidation and standardisation in GNU/Linux in general, and the desktop in particular?'
Good luck.
bybonch ( 38532 ) writes:
That part in the summary amused me:
[I]s it time to concentrate on consolidation and standardisation in GNU/Linux in general, and the desktop in particular?"
It was time ten years ago when Linux was first gaining real momentum in that area. I remember posting Slashdot comments about it and getting told Linux was about "choice" and that if I didn't like it, I should contribute code. Ten years later, even Google is bashing Linux for it. I bet nothing will change even now.
Linux is a server OS, only used on th
byosu-neko ( 2604 ) writes:
Linux is a server OS, only used on the desktop by enthusiasts.
I would hope that all desktop OS's are used by enthusiasts. People who run Ubuntu should do so because that's what they like. People who run Mac OS X should do so because that's what they like. People who run Windows should do so because that's what they like. If people are running an OS for some other reason, then we have problems...
Accept it, because the kind of standardized APIs that are needed are not going to happen with the attitudes that this community has.
Indeed. If we were to reject that attitude and simply standardize around a single way because it's best if everyone runs the same, we'd all run Windows. There's no logica
bytheshowmecanuck ( 703852 ) writes:
If people are running an OS for some other reason, then we have problems...
I guess you have problems. I for one have stopped using Linux and switched back to Windows because I am tired of things not working without hours of hacking and configuring. I want to use on board RAID without pulling my hair out. I know it is not as good as hardware RAID but it still provides redundancy. I am sick and fucking tired of the stupidity of calling it fake raid and refusing to support it. It is not fake, it stripes and
by4D6963 ( 933028 ) writes:
The community can't get it's shit together enough to do it.
Well, that's what you get for choosing an anarchic project management style. It's like the FOSS community is just waking up to the fact that it's hard to do something coherent when anyone only does what they want. The forces of the people involved put together are mighty, and produce great tools, but the Linux crowd really is just a mob. They can do a lot together, but they're a mob, not an army.
To further the mob/army analogy, they want to invade the empire of Microsoft. It can't happen, a mob can't do that. Apple has a better shot at it, because of their wise dictator and well-trained army.
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byZoolander ( 590897 ) writes:
To further further that analogy, quite a few of these mobsters have joined together to form something more like armies. I'm thinking of Ubuntu, Red Hat and Suse, to name the largest ones.
They are projects using free software, but guided by strong leadership.
These are the one who have a shot at making a dent in the armours of Microsoft and Apple.
by4D6963 ( 933028 ) writes:
Well, that's correct, but they're more like barbarian tribes. Not that barbarian tribes can't do great things, but none of the ones we're talking about have the power to make significant dents in the desktop world.
Look at the Ubuntu project, when you think of all it takes to make a desktop OS, it's a relatively modest undertaking. They don't write the OS from the bottom up or anything like that, all they do is cobble up some pre-existing projects as nicely as they can.
There's a reason why Apple would have n
byLaurence0 ( 832251 ) writes:
Are these the same barbarian tribes who sacked the Roman Empire when it got complacent and lazy?
by4D6963 ( 933028 ) writes:
You so wish.
byRalphTheWonderLlama ( 927434 ) writes:
No, more like the ones that turned into... Nazi!
well, it was going to get there eventually
byjavilon ( 99157 ) writes:
Following the logic of your mob/army analogy, I will point that when Spain was invaded by France, we used guerrilla wars (actually "guerrilla" is a spanish word meaning "small war") and we got them out of our country. This has happened on a number of places.
So the bottom line is, we Linux advocates consider computing something we should control, not some foreign multinational. In that situation, a "mob" has a lot of chances to win the "war".
by4D6963 ( 933028 ) writes:
lol, I love the smell of wishful thinking in the morning. The peninsular war was the sudden and sneaky invasion of a nation by a powerful empire, which was then defended by not only the nation itself but its allies, one of which was the British empire. Yeah, that's a bit far off the desktop OS situation.
The desktop OS market is a market. You can make OSes that you control, but you can't control the market. You can conquer it, but the Microsoft empire got about 90% of it occupied already, and Apple about 9%.
by4D6963 ( 933028 ) writes:
lol, allow me to call you out on your wishful thinking. The Germanic tribes were huge. Period.
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