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byArtem S. Tashkinov ( 764309 ) writes:
Yeah, and Android is also "Linux" which makes is the most popular OS in the world.
Very fat sarcasm aside, Android is not Linux (aside from a forked, heavily patched, frozen version of the Linux kernel), ChromeOS is not Linux (it's an atomically (!) updated immutable (!) Linux kernel based OS distributed by Google), and SteamOS is also not Linux (see ChromeOS above), if we are talking about Linux distros containing
* upstream kernel with minimal changes
* glibc and other usual libraries
bytender-matser ( 938909 ) writes:
Very fat sarcasm aside, Android is not Linux (aside from a forked, heavily patched, frozen version of the Linux kernel),
Android is (below that stupid UI) very much linux underneath, as any dev who has spent time hacking various android devices can tell you. (and not some social media/stackexchange opinion bot recycling safe pieces of "common wisdom" for likes).
Android is using the same "linux" technologies as any typical desktop, server or embedded implementation of linux (selinux, namespaces, dm-verity, et
byArtem S. Tashkinov ( 764309 ) writes:
Android is using the same "linux" technologies as any typical desktop, server or embedded implementation of linux (selinux, namespaces, dm-verity, etc).
Yeah, Android also uses glibc, systemd, xorg/wayland-something, and linux packages. Oh wait, it doesn't. There's almost nothing from the average Linux distro in Android aside from the built-in kernel features that you mentioned. Nice try though.
Oh, and it also uses the unmodified mainline kernel. Oh wait, again it doesn't. It uses its own heavily modified
byUnknowingFool ( 672806 ) writes:
Again Linux is the kernel, not the UI or the distro. When you do not get basic facts right, your argument collapses. That is like you arguing that an Acura is not a Honda because the interior is different. The fact that Acuras generally use a large percentage of Honda parts destroys your argument.
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byArtem S. Tashkinov ( 764309 ) writes:
Again Linux is the kernel, not the UI or the distro.
The Linux kernel without userspace is 100% irrelevant and useless and the userspace defines it. The average Linux distro userspace is a complete fucking mess, as Linus Torvalds himself reiterated [youtu.be] a few days ago. Yeah, he said that 11 years ago [youtu.be] and no one has done shit to address it.
I could care less about your car analogy. You got the premise wrong. You call everything with the kernel - Linux. That's not how logic, common sense and reality work.
byUnknowingFool ( 672806 ) writes:
The Linux kernel without userspace is 100% irrelevant and useless and the userspace defines it.
1) Linux is a kernel. Always has been. 2) The fact it is a kernel makes it more relevance because people can change the userspace. Linux can be used in a desktop OS, mobile OS, HPC OS, etc.
The average Linux distro userspace is a complete fucking mess, as Linus Torvalds himself reiterated [youtu.be] a few days ago.
A Linux distro is not the Linux kernel. To contort your argument, you are willing to bring in irrelevant facts.
I could care less about your car analogy. You got the premise wrong. You call everything with the kernel - Linux. That's not how logic, common sense and reality work.
No, let's be clear: You don't care about facts. Linux is a kernel. It has been for 30+ years since the very beginning of Linux. Today there are Linux-based OS variants which you have low opinions. But you are wi
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