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Re: Upgrade all installed packages




To: Alistair Crooks <agc%pkgsrc.org@localhost>

Subject: Re: Upgrade all installed packages

From: Jason Bacon <jtocino%gmx.com@localhost>

Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2023 18:10:34 -0500


On 4/20/23 12:57, Alistair Crooks wrote:



On Wed, 19 Apr 2023 at 21:58, J
ason Bacon <jtocino%gmx.com@localhost  <mailto:jtocino%gmx.com@localhost>> wrote:

    I don't know if there's a foolproof way to determine the location of
    the
    pkgsrc tree, but I will look into this when I get a chance.  pkg_chk
    relies on $PKGSRCDIR for example, but I don't know if anything like
    that
    is guaranteed to be defined for every installation.


[I took the O
P off the Cc list, as this is mainly about general pkgsrc  updating issues. Sorry if I was overzealous, nothing meant or implied --  agc] I think you're looking at this the wrong way - since there is no single  canonical place to put a pkgsrc tree, (indeed, I know of a number of  people who have current and latest branch trees), you need to pass the  pkgsrc directory to the script which updates it. The scm tools and other  locations should flow from that (if building packages from source, or  building binary packages to later distribute with pkgin).

Disclaimer 
- I took a look at auto-admin, and there are some things that  I really like, and some effects that I'm less keen on (it updated the  whole tree to the latest branch, for example, which, while being cool,  was not what I wanted).

However, we're all dif
ferent, and have different needs and ways of  working (different scm, different users, different trees, binary/source  packages, different prefix/localbases,  pkg_chk/pkg_comp/pkg_rolling-replace  etc)

And in case anyone'
s wondering what I use, I derive most info from the  specific pkgsrc tree, and then tag on the back of pkg_rolling-replace. I  usually build everything from source:

[2023/04/19 Wed 22:32:44] agc@netbsd-012 ~ [582] > sudo freshen /usr/pkgsrc
Password:
Using cvs to update /usr/pkgsrc
Updating pkgsrc sources in /usr/pkgsrc using cvs as agc
? editors/vile/patches
M editors/vile/distinfo
U lang/qore/patches/patch-include_qore_macros.h
U math/nickle/patches/patch-configure
U math/nickle/patches/patch-main.c
U textproc/icu/patches/patch-common_unicode_ures.h
Using pkg_rolling-replac
e to freshen packages in /usr/pkg from  /usr/pkgsrc as root
RR> Checking for mismatched installed packages using pkg_chk
RR> Excluding the following mismatched packages:
rr> EXCLUDE=[]
RR> Checking for rebuild-requested installed packages (rebuild=YES)
RR> Checking for unsafe installed packages (unsafe_depends_strict=YES)
RR> Packages to rebuild:
rr> MISMATCH_TODO=[]
rr> REBUILD_TODO=[]
rr> UNSAFE_TODO=[]
RR> No more packages to replace; done.
[2023/04/20 Thu 10:30:04] agc@netbsd-012 ~ [583] >

I've
 slapped a copyright notice on it, and whipped up a man page, and  will add them to this mail, if anyone's interested. Probably still a WIP

(Not trying to ra
in on anyone's parade - the auto-admin script base is  huge, well done, and very detailed. And nicely all in POSIX sh. Just not  for me, sorry)

Best,
Alistair


I tend toward keeping things sim
ple, and demanding the minimum from the  user, so requiring the user to provide the location of the pkgsrc tree  every time is something I would avoid unless it's really necessary.  Though, I have thought about making it an option for more advanced users  if that would be helpful to anyone. I suspect, though, that such users  don't need a tool like auto-update-pkgsrc. It's aimed more at helping  the typical user expedite the process and avoid human error.

The current implementation 
in wip makes no assumptions about the  location of the tree relative to PREFIX. It's taken from PKGSRCDIR,  which appears to be recorded during bootstrap. Assuming that moving a  pkgsrc tree after bootstrapping is considered a bad idea for other  reasons, this should not be a limiting factor.

I'm not sure what you meant by "updated the whole tree to the latest  branch". Can you elaborate?

Thanks,

 J


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