On Sun, Apr 21, 2024 at 11:37:25AM -0400, Greg Troxel wrote: > Therefore, I think we should call it > > TrademarkFox > > and the mail client > > TrademarkBird > > and so on for anything else from Mozilla. I think any renaming doesn't help unless we call it something very strange like the-browser-we-are-not-allowed-to-call-firefox-due-to-mozilla-lawyers-stupidity (and I'm not sure if that violates the firefox trademark). Users will search for "firefox" and "thunderbird", anything renamed will not be found easily. So the easiest solution is to do nothing, the second best (but likely futile) is to try to get some official mozilla blessing and use the real names. If the official version would require dropping some patches we want for policy reasons, we can add a second pkg that just includes the official one but adds the controverse patches and drops the branding. But I have very little hope in this path to work out (and I wouldn't volunteer to be the one running against concrete walls). Martin