>wedged, a kernel printf may still work. And I log all the console >output using Vixie's rtty package. Yep, rtty is excellent. Though I had to add a -7 option to ttysrv to strip parity on input - otherwise the console logs from Sun's tend to be crap (the parity setting can flit b/w 8n,7e up to 3 times during boot of SunOS 4.X). [I've sent the patch to Paul]. --sjg