>For csh: > >startx >& combined_stdout_stderr.log or ( startx > stdout.log ) >& stderr.log which is why some people don't like csh/tcsh. :) -- |-----< "CODE WARRIOR" >-----| codewarrior@daemon.org * "ah! i see you have the internet twofsonet@graffiti.com (Andrew Brown) that goes *ping*!" andrew@crossbar.com * "information is power -- share the wealth."