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byHBI ( 10338492 ) writes:
My decision to move off Windows for my daily driver (last year) was motivated by this. So, this change is very expected. The hard W11 deadline is Venn overlapping.
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byAmiMoJo ( 196126 ) writes:
I've been using Linux on various things, but it's just as bad, if not worse. Different, but not better.
Lots of things are randomly broken. Updates often fail. Fixes usually involve copy/pasting some cryptic bullshit into your terminal as root. LTS releases are often a joke, breaking in rather fundamental ways long before they are supposed to.
I always end up coming back to Windows for my daily driver, because as annoying as it can be, it's not as annoying as Linux.
bytijgertje ( 4289605 ) writes:
What distro are you using that it breaks so often? Slackware?
Even Arch is not that unstable.
byMoHaG ( 1002926 ) writes:
Arch and Slackware are not forcing snaps, which has the same forced update issue...
byAmiMoJo ( 196126 ) writes:
I've tried Ubuntu, Debian, Mint, Kbuntu, RPi OS, Fedora, and a few others.
Don't get me wrong, you need to hack Windows to make it less annoying, but the idea that switching to Linux relieves you of that need is nonsense.
bytijgertje ( 4289605 ) writes:
I wonder what you are doing with your machine that updates break stuff :S
I have used several distro's in the last 20+ years and breaking updates are very very rare.
Unless you are running alpha/beta/testing distro versions. They are meant to test stuff and might break.
byAmiMoJo ( 196126 ) writes:
The usual one is that I want to use some app that was working fine a few years ago, but since then updates have broken it. Something is now incompatible, the specific version of some library it needed is gone, stuff like that.
It doesn't help that the documentation is crap and that googling stuff often doesn't get you the information you need. I'm battling ntpd at the moment, and was doing linuxptp before that. Had to refer to the source code on the latter.
bytijgertje ( 4289605 ) writes:
So the problem was not the Linux distro's but a specific application.
Yes if it does not get updated and is dynamically linked it will stop working.
That is 100% on the maker of that application! Or he has to keep the stuff up to date or use something like Flatpack which contains all the libraries the application needs.
Libraries aren't major updated often but yes it happens. Applications have to be updated to keep working, if they don't they stop working.
That is not different then Windows applications no lon
byAmiMoJo ( 196126 ) writes:
Linus actually addressed it. It described all the software packaging that goes on as a waste of time and energy, and pointed to how Windows does binary distributions as a better model. Stuff still works decades after it was last updated, and nobody wastes huge amounts of time maintaining repos and compatibility. There are package managers just like Linux.
None of which fixes my scanner.
bytijgertje ( 4289605 ) writes:
Nobody stops software makers to make statically linked binaries like they do for Windows. The big downside is that they have to keep the libraries up to date themself. The reason why the Linux world does not like that is because a lot of software makers are terrible in keeping stuff up to date.
While I agree that it would be a good thing is the library naming would at least be consequent across all major package managers. That would at least already save a lot of time.
Which means that software keeps using li
byAmiMoJo ( 196126 ) writes:
There's a reason why if manufacturers do binary releases at all, they are only for a select small number of distros, or one distro in some cases.
byHBI ( 10338492 ) writes:
Militantly anti-systemd. I run Artix, which is based on Arch.
Previously I had run Funtoo, Gentoo and Ubuntu. All were fine. Funtoo was great, but drobbins finally gave up last year.
Minimal breakage over time.
byAntronArgaiv ( 4043705 ) writes:
Running Mint here, for years, on an i7-6700K, 16G of RAM, with absolutely no issues. It runs stable and solid. It's frankly more reliable than Windows ever was, without the constant "improvements". I agree that there are many Linux apps which are only partially functional, due to the developer ceasing work or abandoning them, but they're usually not in the repositories. Apps in general on Linux are more in flux than commercial apps, but there are good basic ones (LibreOffice, GIMP, Mozilla, KiCAD, etc) that
byAmiMoJo ( 196126 ) writes:
Thing is I use LibreOffice, GIMP, Firefox, KiCad and more on Windows. With WSL there isn't really anything I specifically need a Linux OS for.
I have some unsupported hardware too, like a document scanner. You can do a basic scan with it under Linux, but the quality is crap and you don't get any of the special features. The touch LCD on it doesn't work either, which is extremely inconvenient.
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