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bykhchung ( 462899 ) writes:
Guess what's very effective at protecting you from a toxic workplace? Remote working. (Not saying it is 100%)
Guess what happened to remote working in the last two years? RTO mandates.
Guess what's worse than living in hell? Going back to hell after spending a few years outside of it, knowing it is not necessary to doing your job.
Who is surprised that, after RTO mandates, more workers say their workplace is toxic?
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byPatent Lover ( 779809 ) writes:
This x 100
bybuck-yar ( 164658 ) writes:
If I was going to pay someone to do work for me, I'd want it done at a work location, not their home. You'll get more out of them at a workplace rather than somewhere where there's constant distractions, other more pressing issues, more fun things. When you're at work, there's nothing to do but work. That's good for the people wanting the work done. Not good for slackers wanting a paycheck but also wanting to get stuff done around the house, look after their kids at the same time (the glorified daycare that
byBruce66423 ( 1678196 ) writes:
I have three close friends who work in IT. Two work for companies that don't HAVE offices anymore. The third works for a local council. He has no need to be in the office, but the council has imposed a RTO 2 days a week directive on all its employees. The idea is that is that its employees will support the local economy...
Yes, it requires a different approach to managing; you don't just count the number of bums on seats every day, you have to look at whether the work is getting done. And not that the fact t
byjbmartin6 ( 1232050 ) writes:
The slackers are just participating in ./ discussions instead of working.
byruddk ( 5153113 ) writes:
No, at the office there is deafning noise and constant distractions. an open office with no walls barriers, just desks with 80+ people in the same room. Laughing, chattering, phones ringing with obnoxiously loud and annoying ring tones they think is cool, people having Teams meetings at their desk, yelling into their head set because they can't hear themselves. People having meetings around their desks, talking past you to talk to others.
And I swear some people just come in to chat and spend 1/3 of the day
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bythegarbz ( 1787294 ) writes:
Guess what's very effective at protecting you from a toxic workplace? Remote working. (Not saying it is 100%)
That's a great way of telling you didn't read TFA. What they described as toxic is:
- Toxic work culture
- A bad manager
- Lack of growth opportunities
- Increased workload
- Staffing shortages
Precisely none of those are fixed by remote working (and yes you are still subjected to your work culture at home. Heck I'd say remote work has made it more toxic as people are reduced to a number on an ADO board for their work robbing them of meaning).
byBillly Gates ( 198444 ) writes:
It does impact these criteria as it shows bad leadership and management and culture.
If the culture is treating you like an assembly line worker when you are not, then that damages morale and kills loyality.
bykhchung ( 462899 ) writes:
Guess what's very effective at protecting you from a toxic workplace? Remote working. (Not saying it is 100%)
That's a great way of telling you didn't read TFA. What they described as toxic is:
- Toxic work culture
- A bad manager
- Lack of growth opportunities
- Increased workload
- Staffing shortages
Precisely none of those are fixed by remote working (and yes you are still subjected to your work culture at home. Heck I'd say remote work has made it more toxic as people are reduced to a number on an ADO board for their work robbing them of meaning).
I take you never worked remote effectively, or you are one of those obtuse toxic managers insisting on everyone being in the office so you can abuse them.
By being remote, one distances oneself from (1) Toxic work culture and, to some extend, (2) bad manager (especially the micromanaging types). And the time taken to commute to work itself contribute to (4) Increased workload, which is opposite side of the same coin as (5) Staffing shortages.
So remote working alleviated 4 out of 5 issues, and you are blind
bythegarbz ( 1787294 ) writes:
I take you never worked remote effectively,
What the fuck are you talking about? I take it you didn't read my post in the slightest. Nothing about the list is in any way fixed by working remotely. (and yes I have worked remotely now since about 4 years before COVID even started).
1) You don't have different colleagues remotely. Simply not seeing them in person doesn't solve toxicity in your interactions with them.
2) Your manager doesn't change simply because you're not in the office. A bad manager badly managing you will continue to be a bad manager w
bytlhIngan ( 30335 ) writes:
Toxic workplaces aren't new. In fact, they're probably as old as work itself.
The rise in toxic workplaces is like the rise in autism - it's always been there, we're just way more aware of it now and things you could get away with 30 years ago is no longer acceptable in any workplace today.
RTO has nothing to do with it, it just amplifies it.
Toxic workplaces are what gave rise to "work to rule" or its more contemporary name, "quiet quitting". As in there's no longer any reason to go above and beyond at the wo
byerice ( 13380 ) writes:
I think it more than just the actual result of RTO. RTO shows the management is perfectly willing, eager even, to create a toxic work environment for mere hypothetical benefits. If the bar for company benefit at the expense of employee wellbeing is so low, what ELSE are they willing to do and actively doing?
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