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byAnonymous Coward writes:
if someone has a really important bridge for sale.
byarglebargle_xiv ( 2212710 ) writes:
It's a proxy for "Trump doing something batshit crazy", which is quite likely. They can't actually label it as that for political reasons so they use "aliens" as their giant-WTF event instead. The statement beginning:
The United States government appears to be partway through a multi-year process to declassify and disclose information on the existence of a technologically advanced non-human intelligence responsible for Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAPs).
should be read as:
The United States government appears to be partway through a multi-year process of imploding. This is likely to induce ontological shock and provoke psychological responses with material consequences ... There might be extreme price volatility in financial markets due to catastrophising or euphoria, and a collapse in confidence if market participants feel uncertain on how to price assets using any of the familiar methods."
byKisai ( 213879 ) writes:
More or less.
UAP's (UFO's) are pretty much a fiction, part of it owing to not understanding the physics of things, and part of it because the pilots of jets/planes and other high speed military craft are not scientists and don't think logically about werid stuff.
Like breaking "the speed of sound" people often don't realize creates a shockwave which causes damage. That's why you don't see any commercial aircraft at M1+, this is also why like "breaking the speed of light" is impossible, because if you could accelerate past Light Speed, stars would appear to stretch as you start seeing light go backwards toward the star. Or maybe light might just disappear behind you entirely since you're moving faster than it's being sent.
Yet the average military person doesn't understand stuff like this. They see objects moving in wierd directions and don't recognize that their movement is what's making it look like these objects are moving in unusual directions.
So most of the UAP stuff out there is pretty much pilots hallucinating something they didn't have time to process, and when you look at the low resolution cameras, you can't really tell what anything is because cameras are even less reliable than human eyes. Rolling Shutters on smart phones for example produce the "jello" effect, so things that are moving will appear bent or warped.
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byBert64 ( 520050 ) writes:
That's why you don't see any commercial aircraft at M1+
We had commercial aircraft operating at M2+ for more than 30 years, they stopped flying for financial reasons rather than any physical constraints.
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byTGK ( 262438 ) writes:
Yea, but those financial reasons were "dealing with the physical stresses is expensive" and "the shockwave causes damage and is annoying over populated areas so we can only really go M1+ over the ocean."
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bygetuid() ( 1305889 ) writes:
I'm not sure you got the FTL part right. Light is a constant in all frames of reference, so when you move close to speed of light (not faster), the light being sent out from stars would still be light speed even in your frame of reference, not "slower". That's the core of relativity theory.
That said, you'd still have lots of distorsional effects.
FTL would involve some kind of spacetime warping, check out Alcubierre Drive (a theoretical calculation for it could work).
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byAnonymous Coward writes:
Regardless of calculations for warping, no one has gotten even close to solving the causality problem.
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bydrinkypoo ( 153816 ) writes:
"But what about all the DEI transport and helicopter pilots."
Literally no such thing
byconradp ( 154683 ) writes:
Interestingly I suspect the Naval pilots who released those three videos a decade or so ago understood the science very well.
* They named one video "Gofast", because their plane was going fast while imaging something slow, but knew on the video the object looked fast.
* They named another video "Gimbal", because it showed the gimbal of a camera spinning quickly, which gives the illusion of the object jumping quickly.
* They named the last video "Flir" because that's the type of infrared camera that was used, which most people don't know how to interpret as it looks so different from visible camera images.
It was not the pilots, but the media who didn't get the joke, and paraded "expert" after "expert" to say that these videos clearly depicted physics-violating advanced alien technology.
Those smart Navy pilots are probably still laughing it up, knowing they helped kick-start the most recent, every-other-decade alien panic!
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byOl Olsoc ( 1175323 ) writes:
Interestingly I suspect the Naval pilots who released those three videos a decade or so ago understood the science very well.
* They named one video "Gofast", because their plane was going fast while imaging something slow, but knew on the video the object looked fast.
* They named another video "Gimbal", because it showed the gimbal of a camera spinning quickly, which gives the illusion of the object jumping quickly.
* They named the last video "Flir" because that's the type of infrared camera that was used, which most people don't know how to interpret as it looks so different from visible camera images.
It was not the pilots, but the media who didn't get the joke, and paraded "expert" after "expert" to say that these videos clearly depicted physics-violating advanced alien technology.
Those smart Navy pilots are probably still laughing it up, knowing they helped kick-start the most recent, every-other-decade alien panic!
Agreed! Especially the part about laughing at the tools that think everything is aliens.
byAlypius ( 3606369 ) writes:
The downvoting of accurate information while people upvote wrong information makes me weep.
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byOl Olsoc ( 1175323 ) writes:
More or less.
UAP's (UFO's) are pretty much a fiction, part of it owing to not understanding the physics of things, and part of it because the pilots of jets/planes and other high speed military craft are not scientists and don't think logically about werid stuff.
One of the strangest aspects of this whole "pilots are the arbiters of UFO information" is that while I know a number of pilots, they are in general very confident, often quite likable people with a particular skillset for flying. One part of that skillset is good observation. But not a skillset that includes looking at something, and instantly determining it is a vehicle of extraterrestrial source.
Looking at the "evidence", it seems that aliens are about the least likely explanation.
Yet the average military person doesn't understand stuff like this. They see objects moving in wierd directions and don't recognize that their movement is what's making it look like these objects are moving in unusual directions.
I take a bit diffe
byq_e_t ( 5104099 ) writes:
But not a skillset that includes looking at something, and instantly determining it is a vehicle of extraterrestrial source.
Clearly, pilot training is utterly inadequate.
byOl Olsoc ( 1175323 ) writes:
But not a skillset that includes looking at something, and instantly determining it is a vehicle of extraterrestrial source.
Clearly, pilot training is utterly inadequate.
Non sequitur of the week. Airplane pilots have seen "things" in the sky since there have been airplane pilots. There are even charts from WW2 to allow pilots and people on the ground to identify airplanes country, make, and model. Soldiers, country and even rank. Funny how there aren't any flying saucers, or Zeta Reticulans, Archons, Nordics, or Arcturians so people could identify them, just like all the other stuff you believe in. Ever been abducted?
byq_e_t ( 5104099 ) writes:
Non sequitur of the week
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]
byAnne Thwacks ( 531696 ) writes:
Trump's brain pretty much a fiction, part of it owing to not understanding anything at all
FTFY
bySoftwareArtist ( 1472499 ) writes:
It goes deeper than that. For many years, the air force literally told officers that UFOs were real, that there was a secret program to reverse engineer them, and that they would be arrested if they ever said a word to anyone. It was basically a hazing ritual. This article [msn.com] has a great discussion of it. Here's a bit of it.
For decades, certain new commanders of the Air Force's most classified programs, as part of their induction briefings, would be handed a piece of paper with a photo of what looked like a flying saucer. The craft was described as an antigravity maneuvering vehicle.
The officers were told that the program they were joining, dubbed Yankee Blue, was part of an effort to reverse-engineer the technology on the craft. They were told never to mention it again. Many never learned it was fake. Kirkpatrick found the practice had begun decades before, and appeared to continue still. The defense secretary's office sent a memo out across the service in the spring of 2023 ordering the practice to stop immediately, but the damage was done.
Investigators are still trying to determine why officers had misled subordinates, whether as some type of loyalty test, a more deliberate attempt to deceive or something else.
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