●Stories
●Firehose
●All
●Popular
●Polls
●Software
●Thought Leadership
Submit
●
Login
●or
●
Sign up
●Topics:
●Devices
●Build
●Entertainment
●Technology
●Open Source
●Science
●YRO
●Follow us:
●RSS
●Facebook
●LinkedIn
●Twitter
●
Youtube
●
Mastodon
●Bluesky
Want to read Slashdot from your mobile device? Point it at m.slashdot.org and keep reading!
Forgot your password?
Close
Post
Load All Comments
Full
Abbreviated
Hidden
/Sea
Score:
5
4
3
2
1
0
-1
More
| Reply
Login
Forgot your password?
Close
Close
Log In/Create an Account
●
All
●
Insightful
●
Informative
●
Interesting
●
Funny
The Fine Print: The following comments are owned by whoever posted them. We are not responsible for them in any way.
byDrMrLordX ( 559371 ) writes:
Isn't that supposed to be covered by unemployment benefits?
byOrangeTide ( 124937 ) writes:
I don't know about the UK, but aren't unemployment benefits funded on the assumption that more people will eventually find work?
We need a new kind of disability payment, a market disability. Where being made of flesh and blood and needing sleep and food and housing is too much of a liability to make you employable anymore.
byserviscope_minor ( 664417 ) writes:
I don't know about the UK, but aren't unemployment benefits funded on the assumption that more people will eventually find work?
I principle yeah. In practice, oh boy the UK benefits system is in a bit of a mess and needs some serious reform. As a result, a lot of people are going on long term disability for mental health reasons, since its the only practical way to get support. This has no return to work provision and the benefits bill is spiralling out of control.
Sadly our PM is a moron. The reform he trie
byAmiMoJo ( 196126 ) writes:
The driving force behind benefits policy in the UK is outrage that someone else is getting something for nothing, and you are paying for it through tax.
Except when it comes to the biggest cost to the system - pensioners. Then there doesn't seem to be any limit to the burden on working people.
byserviscope_minor ( 664417 ) writes:
The driving force behind benefits policy in the UK is outrage that someone else is getting something for nothing, and you are paying for it through tax.
I think this is a gross over simplification: ultimately the bill failed precisely because most people don't think that people in wheelchairs should have their benefits slashed. People broadly speaking want the two child benefit cap lifted.
Beyond that though it's a mess. Yeah some people are just mean spirited and some are terminally wooly headed. Most people
byAmiMoJo ( 196126 ) writes:
I think we need to move to means testing the state pension. We have Universal Credit, extend it to pensions.
I don't buy all the stuff about old people being too thick or demented to get what they are entitled to. We can build a system that handles it. We have to.
byserviscope_minor ( 664417 ) writes:
I think we need to move to means testing the state pension. We have Universal Credit, extend it to pensions.
Yeah means testing could work. Or UBI :) Also the winter fuel allowance. Or, well, the means tested pension ought to cover it, having a double system is daft. But yeah, having the entire lot be on UC would make s good deal of sense.
I don't buy all the stuff about old people being too thick or demented to get what they are entitled to.
Well, it depends. Some are fine. Watching some suffer serious cogn
byAmiMoJo ( 196126 ) writes:
The thing is you can say the same about any group of people of any age. There will always be some who, for a variety of reasons, have trouble navigating these systems. We don't hesitate to introduce them in other cases, along with help for people who need it.
byserviscope_minor ( 664417 ) writes:
The thing is you can say the same about any group of people of any age. There will always be some who, for a variety of reasons, have trouble navigating these systems. We don't hesitate to introduce them in other cases, along with help for people who need it.
Yes, but it's a question of scale. For kids, there are way, way too many, so the work is punted to the parents. For old people something like 1 in 3 are expected to develop dementia, and they basically arrive out of nowhere but don't have parents to ass
byAmiMoJo ( 196126 ) writes:
I'm not convinced that it is that complex. The government knows what people's income is for the most part, as banks report it to them.
There is no perfect solution, but that doesn't mean we have to have one that is deeply unfair.
Reply to This Parent
twitter
facebook
Flag as Inappropriate
byserviscope_minor ( 664417 ) writes:
I'm not convinced that it is that complex. The government knows what people's income is for the most part, as banks report it to them
If it's all done through PAYE and pensions are made mandatory PAYE as well, it could work. I think that would be a good idea. You appear to be disagreeing but honestly we seem to be in agreement.
There may be more comments in this discussion. Without JavaScript enabled, you might want to turn on Classic Discussion System in your preferences instead.
Slashdot
●
●
Submit Story
If A = B and B = C, then A = C, except where void or prohibited by law.
-- Roy Santoro
●FAQ
●Story Archive
●Hall of Fame
●Advertising
●Terms
●Privacy Statement
●About
●Feedback
●Mobile View
●Blog
Do Not Sell or Share My Personal Information
Copyright © 2026 Slashdot Media. All Rights Reserved.
×
Close
Working...
Working...