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by_Hiro_ ( 151911 ) writes:
It seems like Apple has something against implementing any Xiph codec... FLAC and Vorbis support in iTunes is nonexistent, and even with the QuickTime plugin, iTunes still doesn't have proper tagging support. And now refusing to add Theora support in Safari?
Perhaps someone on the Xiph board did something to one of Apple's Media guys when they were kids or something?
byAnonymous Coward writes:
Regardless of why they have some hatred for Xiph who cares what Apple's doing? Just specify Ogg. Apple will either lose market share as people switch to a browser that doesn't suck or they'll cave and use Ogg. If you can get 3 of them to agree I'd say that's pretty good. Are we just going to stop bothering to innovate because Apple won't give us its blessing? Let's just rename Apple to "Microsoft" and call it a day.
We (developers) are the ones that determine who wins the browser battles. We make the sites
byEvanisincontrol ( 830057 ) writes:
We (developers) are the ones that determine who wins the browser battles. We make the sites and we tell people what browser to use.
Woah woah woah. That's a huge misconception that needs to be squashed right now: We, the content providers, do not tell the customer what browser to use; rather, the customer tells us what browser they're willing to use to view our content.
Why do you think so many "IE6 approved" sites still exist? Because those website's operators desperately want people to continue using IE6? No, they do it because a very large number of people are still using IE6 and are going to continue using IE6 regardless of what browser we mighty developers to try "force" others to use.
As someone else pointed out above, the problem with trying to hardball Apple into playing nice is that Apple will just sit and wait. When website developers go to create their sites and try to ensure cross-browser compatibility, their response to the problem will NOT be "Oh, Apple is just being douchebags. I'll just not bother supporting Safari until they support Theora." Instead, what they'll probably say is, "Hey, flash videos work in every browser. Why should I bother using this stupid VIDEO tag?"
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byducomputergeek ( 595742 ) writes:
It's true. By far MSIE is the largest browser we see with almost 88% of our hits. Second Place is Safari and Safari Mobile both with 4%. The rest are FF & Opera. Most of the people using our site are ordering from larger businesses. They have no control of their browser and we still see a lot of IE 6. So we develop for IE first because if we don't and something doesn't look "right" in IE, we hear about it rather quickly.
byswilver ( 617741 ) writes:
Sites that tell me which browser they're optimized/approved/suited for just scream to me: "A clueless newbie web designer built our site and thinks using the right browser is part of a holy crusade". I couldn't care less what a web site is optimized for, do they REALLY think I would switch browsers just for THEIR site?
As for Apple, just ignore them. If they had any sense at all they'd just support both standards (like Google) as it is 0 effort on their part to add OGG (as it is free and unencumbered). Th
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