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byAnonymous Coward writes:
"Apple is the only vendor that will not be supporting Ogg"
Except IE, which doesn't support, and has not announced plans to support, anything. Until they decide what they're going to do, it really doesn't matter what everyone else is doing.
bynine-times ( 778537 ) writes:
Well it does matter, it's just that the matter is far from settled.
Honestly, I think it is possible to overestimate the power of Microsoft's vendor lock-in. If they don't get in gear and really compete in the browser market, it's only a matter of time before it bites them in the ass. They've already lost of decent chunk of the market to these other browsers.
If these browsers get to the point where they're all offering a clearly superior experience on the web, and Microsoft is still dragging their feet,
byDraek ( 916851 ) writes:
If these browsers get to the point where they're all offering a clearly superior experience on the web, and Microsoft is still dragging their feet, they will eventually become irrelevant themselves.
Exactly. Which is precisely why Microsoft isn't doing anything, and probably won't. Apple's NIH syndrome and Google's bandwidth interests will prevent them from accepting Theora, Mozilla's legal and Opera's monetary problems with H.264 prevent them from accepting it in turn, and neither faction holds enough leverage over the web to 'win' here without Microsoft's support.
End result? no single codec is picked as the standard, web developers ignore the video tag and continue relying on Flash, the status quo is
bynine-times ( 778537 ) writes:
To be fair, I don't think it's Apple's NIH syndrome that's causing the problem. As others have pointed out, it's more likely that they want video on the web to be in a format for which they can put hardware acceleration into the iPhone, so as to give decent battery life.
Google may have more diverse concerns, including Android battery life, processor usage when transcoding video for YouTube, and storage/bandwidth usage for YouTube. I bet saving even a couple kilobytes per video would add up pretty fast.
I agree, though, that a lack of a consistent standard tends to favor Microsoft and Adobe. Still, H264 support is becoming pretty common. Even if Opera and Mozilla can't support decoding themselves, they may be able to pass the work back to the OS and let the OS do the work.
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byxenocide2 ( 231786 ) writes:
If that's their concern, it should have been mentioned at the working group. Their paper never mentions [w3.org] the subject. Nokia, on the other hand, does mention the need for hardware decoding, and insinuates that Ogg is proprietary.
bynine-times ( 778537 ) writes:
I don't see any reference to codecs in there. It seems like they just aren't addressing that topic in that paper.
byxenocide2 ( 231786 ) writes:
No, they aren't. My question to you is: why not? The HTML5 working group is the place to mention things like that.
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