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by_Hiro_ ( 151911 ) writes:
It seems like Apple has something against implementing any Xiph codec... FLAC and Vorbis support in iTunes is nonexistent, and even with the QuickTime plugin, iTunes still doesn't have proper tagging support. And now refusing to add Theora support in Safari?
Perhaps someone on the Xiph board did something to one of Apple's Media guys when they were kids or something?
byAnonymous Coward writes:
Regardless of why they have some hatred for Xiph who cares what Apple's doing? Just specify Ogg. Apple will either lose market share as people switch to a browser that doesn't suck or they'll cave and use Ogg. If you can get 3 of them to agree I'd say that's pretty good. Are we just going to stop bothering to innovate because Apple won't give us its blessing? Let's just rename Apple to "Microsoft" and call it a day.
We (developers) are the ones that determine who wins the browser battles. We make the sites
by99BottlesOfBeerInMyF ( 813746 ) writes:
Regardless of why they have some hatred for Xiph who cares what Apple's doing?
Ipod and iPhone owners care. Content providers looking to target iPod and iPhone owners care.
Apple will either lose market share as people switch to a browser that doesn't suck or they'll cave and use Ogg.
You're oversimplifying. This about more than just Web browsers. It is also about content services. When you don't have Google's Youtube on board with Ogg and you don't have iTunes on board with Ogg and it won't play on iPhones or iPods and you have little likelihood of that changing, specifying Ogg in the spec results in the spec not gaining widespread implementation and failing.
Are we just going to stop bothering to innovate because Apple won't give us its blessing?
Apple is one of the companies pushing
bytepples ( 727027 ) writes:
If the video element is implemented in a way content providers like iTunes and YouTube are not happy with
Let me say it again: YouTube is not a content provider any more than Google Docs; it is a hosting and search provider. YouTube's users provide the works that YouTube displays to viewers.
by99BottlesOfBeerInMyF ( 813746 ) writes:
Let me say it again: YouTube is not a content provider any more than Google Docs;
That's not exactly true as Google has signed deals with content providers to make content available over YouTube. As far as I know they haven't signed contracts with anyone to make content available via Google Docs.
...it is a hosting and search provider.
Largely this is correct, but it is not really material to any of my points.
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