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byPeeAitchPee ( 712652 ) writes:
What if it malfunctions when someone is trying to go vote? To help their aged parents? To urgently get to the hospital? And it will ABSOLUTELY malfunction at some point. There's a place for this type of technology, but you don't start deploying it to the masses using the assumption that everyone is guilty.
bypiojo ( 995934 ) writes:
Yeah, this system seems like it will be great for driving someone to the hospital on empty roads at night. Or being followed by a harasser. The car will pull over to the shoulder, and someone may die because of it.
bySend it to the newts ( 6273598 ) writes:
Yeah, this system seems like it will be great for driving someone to the hospital on empty roads at night. Or being followed by a harasser. The car will pull over to the shoulder, and someone may die because of it.
These kinds of objections always strike me as rather overwrought. The type of situation you describe are rare, and better handled by the emergency services.
And, what of the lives lost every day in car crashes? Do they not figure in your arithmetic?
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bycayenne8 ( 626475 ) writes:
The type of situation you describe are rare, and better handled by the emergency services.
"Emergency Services" are generally there to just take pictures of the crime scene and start and investigation....unfortunately not to prevent the crime and potential death/damage.
When seconds count, the police are only (many) minutes away.
bySend it to the newts ( 6273598 ) writes:
The type of situation you describe are rare, and better handled by the emergency services.
"Emergency Services" are generally there to just take pictures of the crime scene and start and investigation....unfortunately not to prevent the crime and potential death/damage.
When seconds count, the police are only (many) minutes away.
The emergency services are more than just the police. Your argument does not apply to the driving to the hospital scenario, where an ambulance is almost certainly the best way, so that you have paramedics on hand. Also, contrary to your assertion, one of the jobs of the police is to respond to and prevent incidents in progress. I'm not saying they always arrive in time, I'm just saying that calling them usually offers the best odds.
In short, life-threatening incidents are are rare, and such incidents whe
bycayenne8 ( 626475 ) writes:
Also, contrary to your assertion, one of the jobs of the police is to respond to and prevent incidents in progress.
Actually, the police are not under any obligation to protect you from crime.
Supreme Ct Co Case [nytimes.com]
State agency under no obligation [wikipedia.org]
Your argument does not apply to the driving to the hospital scenario, where an ambulance is almost certainly the best way
This depends.
I've seen ambulances get there quick....and I had one I needed not long back....took awhile. A cop arrived quicker than the ambul
bySend it to the newts ( 6273598 ) writes:
Also, contrary to your assertion, one of the jobs of the police is to respond to and prevent incidents in progress.
Actually, the police are not under any obligation to protect you from crime.
Supreme Ct Co Case [nytimes.com]
State agency under no obligation [wikipedia.org]
That 2nd link is about social services, not the emergency services, and thus irrelevant. First link's paywalled, so I don't know what it actually says, but I think it's safe to assume the police have many duties beyond what your constitution requires of them. I think you're just armchair lawyering here. In practice, the police do respond to emergency calls, and will prevent a crime in progress if they are able. Indeed, their mere presence on the scene will dissuade anyone with half a brain from committi
bypiojo ( 995934 ) writes:
Police may not help you if they personally think you don't deserve it for some reason. They don't help you if they think the situation could be dangerous to them. They don't help you if they are too busy with other things. They may not help you if they can arrest you instead (if they notice something illegal). They may not help you if doing so would make another office look bad. They certainly won't help you if you're afraid to call them, for example if you are a prostitute, smell like weed, etc.
I'm not say
bySend it to the newts ( 6273598 ) writes:
Police may not help you if they personally think you don't deserve it for some reason. They don't help you if they think the situation could be dangerous to them. They don't help you if they are too busy with other things. They may not help you if they can arrest you instead (if they notice something illegal). They may not help you if doing so would make another office look bad. They certainly won't help you if you're afraid to call them, for example if you are a prostitute, smell like weed, etc.
These are fair points, but the only solution to this is to sort the bloody police out. Anything else misses the target by a mile.
bypiojo ( 995934 ) writes:
I doubt the majority of lives lost are due to weaving drivers that a dumb heuristic could detect as impaired. But that aside,
These kinds of objections always strike me as rather overwrought. The type of situation you describe are rare, and better handled by the emergency services.
Rare, yes. But most women will need to be rushed to hospitals at least once in their lives. And no, emergency services are not an appropriate solution in that situation. Moreover, rare objections are appropriate when discussing a solution to a rare problem. How often have you weaved due to being impaired? Three times? Never? Finally, even rare problems should be considered when compar
bySend it to the newts ( 6273598 ) writes:
I doubt the majority of lives lost are due to weaving drivers that a dumb heuristic could detect as impaired.
That would depend on how good the heuristics are, which we won't know until someone actually tries to implement them.
But most women will need to be rushed to hospitals at least once in their lives. And no, emergency services are not an appropriate solution in that situation.
Childbirth is not life-threatening, unless something has gone wrong with the pregnancy. At which point, an ambulance is entirely appropriate. But normally, a taxi is a perfectly good plan B if your car breaks down. Or a perfectly good plan A for people who don't drive in the first place.
How often have you weaved due to being impaired? Three times? Never?
More to the point, how often do you encounter impaired drivers? Impaired driving affects everyone in th
bySend it to the newts ( 6273598 ) writes:
Childbirth is not life-threatening, unless something has gone wrong with the pregnancy. At which point, an ambulance is entirely appropriate. But normally, a taxi is a perfectly good plan B if your car breaks down. Or a perfectly good plan A for people who don't drive in the first place.
Oh, and I feel I should point out that a lot of people choose to give birth at home anyway, which is a perfectly reasonable choice in most cases. There is a school of thought that says that going to hospital by default is an unnecessary medicalization of childbearing.
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