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byTailhook ( 98486 ) writes:
Iknew [slashdot.org] we would get here. The sales trend was obvious as much as three years ago, but only if you aren't a pie-eyed EV advocate that can't tolerate any anti-EV facts.
There are genuinely good hybrid products available now in every segment of the market, from compact to medium trucks. Government Motors, however, can always be relied on to go full establishment group-think, so now they're caught out again, playing catch up.
bydgatwood ( 11270 ) writes:
Iknew [slashdot.org] we would get here. The sales trend was obvious as much as three years ago, but only if you aren't a pie-eyed EV advocate that can't tolerate any anti-EV facts.
There are genuinely good hybrid products available now in every segment of the market, from compact to medium trucks. Government Motors, however, can always be relied on to go full establishment group-think, so now they're caught out again, playing catch up.
It's obvious that we would get here with the completely gutted EV subsidies that we have now, yes. EVs cost more, and drivers tend to mentally overestimate how many long trips they take, making them believe that EVs are way more inconvenient than they actually are.
It's not obvious that we *should* be here, though. Hybrids are still way worse for the environment than EVs, and infinitely worse than EVs powered by renewable energy.
byNarrowband ( 2602733 ) writes:
drivers tend to mentally overestimate how many long trips they take, making them believe that EVs are way more inconvenient than they actually are.
It's not the number of long trips, it's the circumstances and maximum length that often set the requirements for a vehicle. It's easy to base planning on the idea that everyone needs the same thing, on average, but I don't think it works that way in practice. When buying your own vehicle, you plan for something that meets your needs for the edge cases, not what you do on the average.
For example, consider the driving needs of an amateur astronomer: travel comfortably cross country to a dark site, carrying spouse, luggage, camping gear, and a ton of equipment. At the end of that, travel offroad to the end destination that may be on a mountain, in a field, a ways off of dirt roads, etc., and set up, then return. There's no chance of charging infrastructure in those locations, and little chance of quick rescue (or sometimes even cell signal to call for help) if a battery runs out. Plug-in hybrid SUV, ok, but not BEV, no way, no how, the risks are just too great.
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byshilly ( 142940 ) writes:
The thing is, there just aren't that many amateur astronomers. They're vastly outnumbered by the people whose edge case is that they have no edge case -- they never take any long trips at all. Loads of people with cars fit this category, far more than the astronomers. Everyone focuses on the people for whom BEVs don't work that well (yet) while ignoring the people for whom they work really really well right now.
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byshilly ( 142940 ) writes:
Me, for example. I'd never want to stop at a gas station, ever. I don't want to burn fuel via the tailpipe, ever. I don't want to plug in daily, I want to plug in weekly or fortnightly. I don't want to pay for an IC engine that I won't use, and I definitely don't want the hassle of maintaining it. I do journeys of 80 miles plus at least monthly, which is well past the range of almost every PHEV on the market. And conversely, I'll never drive far enough that the PHEV saves me any significant time. I can do t
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