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bydknj ( 441802 ) writes:
It wonâ(TM)t take long for these cars to be exported. When it does, expect them to absolutely destroy the automotive markets of whatever country allows them in
bycaseih ( 160668 ) writes:
Maybe. Here in North America, the big three have already conceded the budget market. None of them are interested in anything other than luxury cars. For the first time, the average car purchase in the US has hit $50k. Europe ceded the entire EV market years ago to China.
Canada is set to relax the Chinese EV ban and tariffs, which I'm in favor of (maybe set them to 50%). However the only Chinese EV manufacturer that will actually be allowed in is Tesla. Our market is just too small to for Chinese automaker
byprotehnica ( 10187841 ) writes:
"Europe ceded the entire EV market years ago to China."
Factually incorrect. This would imply that all/most new EV cars on the roads in Europe are Chinese brands, which is simply not the case.
bygetuid() ( 1305889 ) writes:
Middle-class European here.
Just wait a few years. I'm in the position that I simply can't affort a new car, prices well above $50k, so I'm stuck with whatever I can get on the 2nd hand market at 20k-ish. We're already seeing the Xpeng P7 here occasionally at 35k-ish ("used" but factually new). That's whay I'm eyeing with.
If most of middle class here is like me (and I can't imagine they're not, I'm simply too good at math to entertain any other illusion), and their internal combustion cars are aging just lil
bytest321 ( 8891681 ) writes:
The Renault 5 BEV is entirely made in France including the batteries, and sold 24.990 €. The Dacia Spring, also produced by Renault in their Chinese factory, is sold 16.900 €. The Chinese makers do have a great opportunity, but I just wanted to make the point that EU-made BEV are not necessarily > 50 k€.
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bygetuid() ( 1305889 ) writes:
I actually test rode Dacia Spring recently. Renaul 5 is very similar.
They're too small to be the primary general purpose family cars (try fittong 4 people inside, let alone luggage for a family holiday - I'm about 6'3" and I can't even fit in as a driver without making a safety hazard out of it).
They are about the right size for 2nd or 3rd car options, city+commute only, with a range of about 120 km (forget WLTP). Not even fit for serious shopping, a week's worth of groceries including some water and the oc
bybuzz_mccool ( 549976 ) writes:
Is the price quoted with or without any government subsidies for electric vehicles?
byorgangtool ( 966989 ) writes:
Why is that relevant to the buyer? I don't really care why my car costs what it costs - I just care about how much I'm putting out of my pocket.
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