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byRitchCraft ( 6454710 ) writes:
Germany better put some extra money aside to beef up their fire brigades if they let Chinesium into the mix.
bySique ( 173459 ) writes:
There is already good data available for the average number of car fires for EVs, and the result is: EVs don't burn. They are more than 25 times as fire resistant as internal combustion powered cars, and 35 times as fire resistant as hybrids. Additionally, there has been extensive testing how to handle an EV fire, and it's quite easy: Keep the temperature of the burning part below 80 degree Celsius or 175 F, and you are fine.
Don't repeat what you have heard somewhere, look into an actual fire fighter manu
bymagzteel ( 5013587 ) writes:
There is already good data available for the average number of car fires for EVs, and the result is: EVs don't burn. They are more than 25 times as fire resistant as internal combustion powered cars, and 35 times as fire resistant as hybrids. Additionally, there has been extensive testing how to handle an EV fire, and it's quite easy: Keep the temperature of the burning part below 80 degree Celsius or 175 F, and you are fine.
Don't repeat what you have heard somewhere, look into an actual fire fighter manual!
There are no such statistics. Every report I've ever seen eventually links back to an article from autoinsuranceez.com https://www.autoinsuranceez.co... [autoinsuranceez.com] which is completely wrong. It says the stats come from the NTSB, but the NTSB doesn't track such stats. They also are referring to fires per 100k vehicles SOLD, not vehicles on the road. That's a useless statistic. There are about 290 million cars on the road in the USA and EV's make up less than 2% of them.
byshilly ( 142940 ) writes:
Then you've just not looked at that many reports. Here's guidelines for covered car parks from the UK government commissioned from Arup, an engineering group. It has a whole section on frequency, and none of the data are from the source you mention; they're from the UK and Norway instead, and focused on vehicles on the road.
https://assets.publishing.serv... [service.gov.uk]
Are you *really* trying to claim that it's just a myth that EVs have lower fire rates than ICE vehicles? Is that truly a hill you're going to die on?
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bymagzteel ( 5013587 ) writes:
Then you've just not looked at that many reports. Here's guidelines for covered car parks from the UK government commissioned from Arup, an engineering group. It has a whole section on frequency, and none of the data are from the source you mention; they're from the UK and Norway instead, and focused on vehicles on the road.
https://assets.publishing.serv... [service.gov.uk]
Are you *really* trying to claim that it's just a myth that EVs have lower fire rates than ICE vehicles? Is that truly a hill you're going to die on?
Interesting article, especially since it is about mitigating the unique fire risks inherent in EV's. For example, no one is worried about potential thermal runaway fires a month after an ICE car has been in an accident. But as to the relative risk, it says:
"There are several studies [48], [2] regarding the quantity of EV fires at a national and global level which when compared, indicate that the data presented has a high degree of uncertainty; as data capture is not yet sufficiently coordinated at these d
byshilly ( 142940 ) writes:
Sure. I just wanted to point out that other data exist, it's not all about that autoinsuranceez.com report.
I personally think Arup over-baked that statement, and that there are good reasons to expect that EVs won't see the rate of increase of fires with ageing that ICE vehicles do. ICE vehicles see this strongly increasing risk with age driven by many independent failure modes that cause an increase in both leak probability and ignition probability. These failures tend to be gradual, cumulative and undetect
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