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    Updated: I've added a FAQ section at the bottom.

    We just launched O'Reilly's single sign on system. Effective immediately you'll be able to access oreilly.com, Safari Bookshelf, O'Reilly Network, MacDevCenter.com, ONDotnet.com, ONJava.com, ONLamp.com, Perl.com, WindowsDevCenter.com, and XML.com using a single account and password.

    We hope you find this system more convenient and intuitive to use.

    There are several additional sources of information.

    • Existing users will receive an email with more information about their account.
    • You can also read the official system bulletin.
    • If you're having account troubles, send email to accounts@oreilly.com

    This is a big change for us, so we'll be keeping a close eye on the changes over the next few days. If you have any questions or concerns I'm happy to address them here or through email.

    Frequently Asked Questions

    Why can't I login?

    You need to login with your email address now. A lot of our sites previously required a user id.

    Your password may have changed or you may no longer remember your password. Click the "Forgot your password" link on the login page. You will receive a numeric password that will allow you to access your account and reset your password.

    Why did my password change?

    If you had more than one account on our sites we reset your password. You should have received the new password in your email. If you didn't receive an email, you can retrieve a new password from the "Forgot my password" link.

    You'll be required to change your password when you login

    What's a screen name?

    We've kept your old login name around for use as a screen name. It's now your public identifier on our sites.

    Why did my screen name change

    In cases where two or more users shared a screen name, we incremented the duplicate names.

    This eliminates confusion across our sites where chromatic on OReillyNet may not be the same user as chromatic on XML.com. There would now be a chromatic and a chromatic1.

    I'm a Safari customer and I can't login

    You may not have signed up for Safari through O'Reilly. Try logging in through http://search.safaribooksonline.com. You will be automatically directed to the correct Safari portal for your account. You can read more in this note to Safari customers.

    Why didn't you give more warning/communicate this better?

    This is a big change for us and for you. We're reading all of the emails and comments and adding new information to this weblog. Please check back as needed. If you want personal help from our Support Group send email to accounts@oreilly.com.

    Tony Stubblebine writes Perl and regular expressions for O'Reilly.

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    • how was it done?
      2004-04-28 20:32:56 ajohnson1200 [Reply | View]

      Single sign on is a great service! Thanks for putting it together... I'd love to see an article on *how* it was done, specifically what technologies you used and what some of the pros and cons are.

      Thanks!

      AJ

      • how was it done?
        2004-05-11 11:05:00 elegans [Reply | View]

        Did any one answer your questions?
    • I wish to "opine"........
      2004-04-25 14:08:41 michaelsky [Reply | View]

      Dear Bill,
      My wife and I have been faithful viewers for several years now. We figured it was time to log on to your site and make our presence known.

      We are both very "pithy" and our rather intense exchanges over the various items of the day leave our neighbors wondering if we enjoy a happy marriage I'm sure!

      Well Sir, more later. Keep up the wonderful job!
      Sincerely,
      Michael S. Toborowsky
      and
      Grey M. McCardle-Toborowsky
      Edison, New Jersey.

    • My account's still missing
      2004-04-13 11:12:07 dnxthx [Reply | View]

      It looks like my Safari account has been wiped from the face of the earth. I've put in two e-mail requests and made a phone call and still nothing. I certainly expect that O'Reilly will prorate or extend our subscriptions for the time lost due to this great single sign-on 'idea.'
      • My account's still missing
        2004-04-13 15:49:32 shaw@oreilly.com [Reply | View]

        If you get the error "account does not exist", the solution is to go to:

        http://search.safaribooksonline.com

        and log in from there. You'll be redirected to the correct URL for your individual Safari account.

        Your Safari account is with MSDN, not O'Reilly, and that is why you get an "account does not exist" error when trying to log in at safari.oreilly.com.

        • My account's still missing
          2004-04-16 11:57:07 blkw0lf [Reply | View]

          Is there any way to consolodate the MSDN account with my O'Reilly account? I now find myself with a disabled O'Reilly account for Safari Bookshelf and have login with a different email address at http://search.safaribooksonline.com to access my safari subscription.

          Which is highly confusing to me since I dont ever recall signing up to safari thru MSDN and under normal circumstances go out of my way to not have anything to do with any MS services.

    • Still no announcement on the front page
      2004-04-12 10:38:41 mbeckman [Reply | View]

      I'm glad to see the addition of the FAQ above -- that's a start on the education process for your users. However, there is still no announcment on ORA's front page about this! What's taking you so long?

      Note that the tiny link "O'Reilly Single Sign On" listed under "Featured Weblogs" doesn't count. I saw that link several times before it clicked that the article had something to do with my login problems.

      I'm talking about a banner across the page. Something nobody will miss. Surely O'Reilly's highly technical staff could add this into the content delivery system in a few milliseconds. I can't think of a reason not to.

      Particularly for those of us who pay to use O'Reilly services like Safari, I'd expected better handling of this. The above FAQ asks the question "Why didn't you give more warning/communicate this better?" but doesn't answer it.

      -mel beckman

      • It's There
        2004-04-12 13:03:48 derrick [Reply | View]

        Hi Mel,

        We posted an announcement at the top of the News column on oreilly.com not long after your post here. We also have posts above the fold on other sites. Thanks.

    • Smelled like phish
      2004-04-12 10:08:27 kforward [Reply | View]

      As a security admin I spend my days trying to convince people to never follow unsolicited links asking them to log in and verify/update account information of any sort.

      I myself almost tossed that email, then thought to keep it as an example of a phishing scam. Much to my chagrin, the mail headers suggest it's real.

      Better you had directed people to manually type in www.oreilly.com, then visit the SSO link found mid/upper-right...

      • Smelled like phish
        2004-04-12 15:04:10 kenjanuski1 [Reply | View]

        I agree completely. I was tempted to follow the email link but thought better of it. Only when I was presented with a new logon screen when I tried to access Safari today did I realize that the email was legit.

        I think a warning on the web page would have made users a little more likely to have trusted the email. And I would have thought 0'Reilly of all people would have thought of that.

        • Smelled like phish
          2004-04-12 19:40:09 tonystubblebine [Reply | View]

          Several people have pointed out that our email notification smelled like spam. We tried to avoid this by running the email through Spam Assassin. It scored very low.

          Unfortunately the email was often flagged as suspicious by software and users both.

          For those who didn't see or didn't trust the email, we're trying to make the new login process as clear as possible.

          We've added instructions to the login pages. Hopefully anyone facing the new login process for the first time will find enough official information to feel comfortable.

          • Smelled like phish
            2004-04-13 00:08:08 jwenting [Reply | View]

            hmm, either I never got an email sent to me or my spamfilters got the better of it.

            Good thing my old password still works :)

    • How To Deploy Single Sign On With Maximum Customer Annoyance
      2004-04-12 08:50:08 mbeckman [Reply | View]

      What were you guys thinking? I tried to log in this morning to my Safari bookshelf for an urgent project, and couldn't. After a lot of digging I figured out what had happened, but still don't have my login working!

      Why didn't you provide any advance notice of this change? And why, when I tried to use my old user ID and password, didn't you route me to a password change or new-account confirmation screen? Why for pete's sake don't you put some kind of banner on the ORA home page announcing this change! The only reference I could find about this was under "weblogs" -- not terribly obvious. I suggest something like "ATTENTION: YOUR OREILLY LOGIN HAS CHANGED! CLICK HERE FOR DETAILS!"

      Finally, I discovered that you did email me this morning about the change, but you embedded a huge URL in the email, so Postini flagged it as spam. Surely you of all companies should know that embedded email links are security problems! I am constantly warning my clients to NEVER click on them, advice I've seen on ORA numerous times.

      Two hours down the drain on a busy Monday morning trying to sort this out. Count me seriously unhappy about the handling of this project. I expected much better from O'Reilly.

    • I want my user ID back
      2004-04-11 21:15:23 alexvaldez [Reply | View]

      Somehow my user ID got changed from alexv to alexv1. Who's got my old account now?
      • I want my user ID back
        2004-04-13 09:03:12 rsf-lists [Reply | View]

        I too found out that my user ID associated with my main email address had been changed to a combination of my names I rarely use for this purpose, with a digit appended. My preferred screen ID (this one) was associated with a secondary email address, and I'd like to move it to my primary address, but I see no way to do this. I can't edit my primary address to my preferred name, because it's "already in use" (by another account I control), and I can't see a way to delete my secondary account to free up the user ID.

        (The same thing happened to me when Netscape and AOL "consolidated" their various accounts, leaving me with a screen name I had never used anywhere else. I solved the problem then by no longer using Netscape. :-)

        Again, it would have been nice if more warning had been given to the user community before implementing the change.

        • I want my user ID back
          2004-04-13 09:09:58 rsfinn [Reply | View]

          Never mind -- I figured out I could change the secondary account's screen ID to something else, then go in and change the primary account. (Now this post has the desired screen ID, and the parent post has the "something else").

          Still wish I could delete the secondary account...

      • I want my user ID back
        2004-04-12 00:30:04 tonystubblebine [Reply | View]

        Alex, I'm sorry that your screen name changed. We consolidated accounts from several O'Reilly sites. Unfortunately someone else also had the screen name alexv.

        You're not the only user in this position. We dealt with duplicate screen names by incrementing the name. To anyone who lost a cherished handle, I'm sorry.

        Knowing that the person posting talkbacks as chromatic on oreillynet.com is the same user as the chromatic posting talkbacks on XML.com is a good and long overdue change.

        • I want my user ID back
          2004-04-13 00:10:20 jwenting [Reply | View]

          are old posts consolidated towards the new screennames to avoid confusion?

          Or do we have to guess if the post by alexv on oreillynet.com from today is the same user as the post from last week or not?

    • problems accessing weblogger home page
      2004-04-11 10:33:38 kbedell [Reply | View]

      I can't seem to get to the 'weblogger' home page now. I just see the new default account screen.

      I'm not sure if or how I can post any weblog entries...

      -kevin


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    SSO at OReilly
    2004-04-10 19:01:04
    Hey, check it - OReilly has implemented SSO for it's site/web properties. Okay, that's pretty neat. I'd worked that problem...
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