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==Table colours==
The table of fleet locations is very brightly coloured. Do these colours have any significance? If not, I'd say they should be toned down a bit. Firstly because the contrast with black text, especially on the orange and green, is not good and this may impair the ability of some people to read them. The other reasons are less important: secondly because the orange and yellow are a bit close, functionally, and imply a connection between the statuses; and thirdly because there may be green-orange colour-blindness problems. Basically, using colour to convey information on the web isn't a great idea when good layout and text can do it. – [[User:kierant|<
== Compartments ==
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Re-added information on successors as even though the Class 444 and Class 450 are already with South Western Railway, the Class 444 and Class 450 are replacing the Class 442 on all routes the Class 442s operated on. Thus the Class 444 and Class 450 are the successors to the Class 442. [[User:Maurice Oly|Maurice Oly]] ([[User talk:Maurice Oly|talk]]) 13:43, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
: Doesn't follow, the 442s were to provide extra services that won't now operate. [[User:Murgatroyd49|Murgatroyd49]] ([[User talk:Murgatroyd49|talk]]) 20:17, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
: Ah right ok, I was under the assumption that we counted successor what replaced a Class of train once it left a TOC, I did not know about the has to follow bit. My bad. In that case my edit adding in successors may be removed if that is the right thing to do. [[User:Maurice Oly|Maurice Oly]] ([[User talk:Maurice Oly|talk]]) 00:03, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
:: With stock that has moved from TOC to TOC several times, as in this case, that would just get confusing. [[User:Murgatroyd49|Murgatroyd49]] ([[User talk:Murgatroyd49|talk]]) 08:14, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
== Is it true that SWR purchased the units in order to scrap them? ==
According to 3 separate publications, yes.
*''[[Rail (magazine)|Rail]]'' 21 April 2021 issue states: {{tq|The Wessex Electrics were owned by Angel Trains. SWR will now take ownership before removing any parts it requires and sending the vehicles for disposal.}}
*''[[The Railway Magazine]]'' May 2021 issue states: {{tq|A £45 million plan by South Western Railway to refurbish Class 442 EMUs has been abandoned. The five-car sets are owned by SWR, and not leased.}}
*''[[Railways Illustrated]]'' June 2021 issue states: {{tq|With much of the work on the 442s already complete it is to buy them off the lessor, Angel Trains, and scrap them.}}
Was done as part of the deal to terminate the lease that was to run until 2024 early. I would put more faith in what reliable publications state in articles published sometime after the event having had time to drill down on the details, than an online source that was published on the day of the announcement. [[User:Customreed|Customreed]] ([[User talk:Customreed|talk]]) 05:12, 3 September 2021 (UTC)
:''The Railway Magazine'' doesn't actually state when the trains were bought by SWR, it says <q>The five-car sets are owned by SWR, not leased.</q> (paragraph 1) and <q>as the units are owned by SWR and not leased</q> (para. 10). They could have been bought several years ago, and nowhere does the article state that the units were bought with the intention of scrapping without further use. The impression given by the rest of the article is that SWR, being in possession of these units, intended to refurbish them at its own expense; but then COVID put these plans on hold. Any business should be prepared to revise their future plans in light of major events, so if SWR have decided that in the long term it is more cost-effective to scrap, rather than laying out more money for a refurbishment that may never recoup its costs, we can hardly blame them. --[[User:Redrose64|<span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64]] 🌹 ([[User talk:Redrose64|talk]]) 08:29, 3 September 2021 (UTC)
::They were still on Angel Trains' books in [https://angeltrains.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/Investor-Report-Year-Ended-30-June-2020.pdf June 2020]. The ''Rail'' and ''Railways Illustrated'' articles make it clear that the change in ownership occurred as a result of the March 2021 decision to terminate the lease. At the time of the decision to not return them to service, the refurbishment program was almost complete, all had received new interiors and 14 of the 18 had new traction equipment. [[User:Customreed|Customreed]] ([[User talk:Customreed|talk]]) 02:32, 4 September 2021 (UTC)
== Fleet details ==
Can somebody please update the fleet detail table to change all the colours to grey as all Class 442 units have been scrapped.
:Done [[User:Murgatroyd49|Murgatroyd49]] ([[User talk:Murgatroyd49|talk]]) 17:31, 3 September 2021 (UTC)
It would seem that reference 36 states, given the information it is backing up. [[User:Maurice Oly|Maurice Oly]] ([[User talk:Maurice Oly|talk]]) 14:33, 3 September 2021 (UTC)
== Isn't the Rohr Aerotrain the fastest third-rail vehicle? ==
The Rohr Aerotrain never entered service, but the speed record for this one was prior to entering service as well. The Rohr was a frictionless tracked air cushion vehicle that reached speeds of 145 MPH on a third rail, with a linear induction motor.
It seems like a more accurate description would be that this is the fastest third rail vehicle to enter service, or the fastest wheel-driven third rail vehicle? [[Special:Contributions/24.6.208.246|24.6.208.246]] ([[User talk:24.6.208.246|talk]]) 20:38, 1 December 2022 (UTC)
: where do you get the third rail from? It appears to straddle a concrete guide beam like a conventional monorail. [[User:Murgatroyd49|Murgatroyd49]] ([[User talk:Murgatroyd49|talk]]) 20:55, 1 December 2022 (UTC)
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