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Your need to insult me here is inappropriate. You assert you've "been cleaning up" my stuff for "weeks" - yet you link to the ONLY OTHER links I've inserted over the last several months (hardly "getting old" and hardly of the nature that is spam and hardly of the "abject commentary" nature since no opinions were inserted and no cause was advanced). Also, you should read the Wiki policy on calling other genuinely motivated entries "spam" or badly motivated (I can't cite the exact policy location - I'm not a wiki-guru like you - I've read it once). You've failed to contact me directly (my e-mail is publicly available, unlike yours) to explain your concerns. I've been polite here - you are not being polite. As to news content - all newspapers publish "original work". An interview by a reporter of a public figure is no less "original" than my interviews of public officials. A newspaper should be afforded no "special status" over "citizen reporters" if the content provided meets certain standards - that's the very essence of Wikipedia's purpose - to provide information that meets certain standards regardless of other factors. Newspapers typically have an assumed credibility that's harder to dispute than that of others, but you can't just dismiss my work without some evidence of my non-reliability. Additionally, providing a link to obviously factual and non-controversial material such as a candidate interview is hardly the source of controversial stuff. My reading of the NOR policy is that 1) the facts can't be "unpublished" (I published them in a third party source, that I happen to own and edit) 2) they can't advance a particular position, or violate the NPOV policy. The NOR policy also states clearly, "This policy does not prohibit editors with specialist knowledge from adding their knowledge to Wikipedia, but it does prohibit them from drawing on their personal knowledge without citing their sources." [1] Additionally, contacting me rather than flaming me, would have been more appropriate.
What is it under Wiki guidelines that 1) makes me not notable for the areas I'm asserting notability 2) makes the informational content of a candidate interview not notable (note, under Wiki guidelines here, the source of publication need not be "notable" if the content itself is notable to the reader of the entry, so long as the source is credible, salient, and NPOV) particularly during the critical time of an election. Why are listings of losers names in the most recent election not notable? Particularly in the closest election in the county, decided 1055 - 1035. Indeed, the vote total would suggest that the loser's name is notable to 49.6% of the city population - and only .8% less notable than the winner's name - but its not notable to to you? In fact, knowing that a community is that closely divided, might be notable as an implicit fact. Yet you delete all of it.Chetlyzarko 23:42, 8 November 2007 (UTC)Reply
Also, if you're serious about "cleaning up" NOR stuff, you'll need to delete the same kind of stuff from other political news websites out there that are all over Wikipedia. Start by removing all the citations from MichiganLiberal.com. See, I have no problem with them adding their allegedly useful content, but what's good for the goose is good for the gander. If you want to have a discussion on what is useful or not useful, that's a different story.
Given that the election is now past, re-inserting both questionnaires would be moot. However, I've made some factual improvements in the next set of edits and will make more when I give more thought to it.
Elections are among the most important things we do in society. You'd think providing informational NPOV links to candidate positions would be a notable and worthy service.
Chetlyzarko 09:46, 8 November 2007 (UTC)Reply
Before I take this to dispute resolution, I'd like some consensus here. I can accept that the second reference to myself as editor is probably gratuitous, but I'd like a serious explanation as to how public service questionnaires addressed to both candidates (NPOV) is either spamming or some other violation of Wiki policy.
My proposed edit has been made.
Chetlyzarko 09:35, 6 November 2007 (UTC)Reply
I've now twice had my entries deleted as "link spamming". I understood the first one which provided no context other than a link to my website - the second one though provided original news comment. Given that my own work has appeared in the Wall Street Journal in the past and I am an internet publisher, I lay claim to being a credible source - - particularly when I publish original interviews with local officials on my local news website. Original interviews are not spam - spam involves at least a degree of irrelevancy - that content is highly relevant. The primary purpose of my website is not commercial (no more so than the Detroit News is).
Second, I had my factual edits on the "resignation" of local officials removed, despite the editor leaving the link to the local news article I cited in place. His comment was that for Wiki purposes resignations don't occur until a citation is made. The local news (a print publication) article states clearly:
"Running for mayor are Kurt Hack and Penny Luebs. Mayor Lisa Dwyer is not seeking re-election. Hack and Luebs had to resign their council seats to run for mayor. The election is Nov. 6"
Those edits should be reverted. If the cleaner had read the article, those edits would not be necessary.
Chetlyzarko 09:21, 6 November 2007 (UTC)Reply
We need a citation for the following:
--JChap 01:32, 23 May 2006 (UTC)Reply
Is Clawson really upscale (first sentence)? I always thought it was more a working-class town. When I lived there as a kid my dad was a blue-collar employee of Chrysler. None of my friends were rich, and some kids were actually kinda' poor. Though I lived there in the 1970s, I don't think the city has changed that much. My house had a modest two bedrooms (three if you convert the attic, as many did), as are 90% of the houses where I lived (Massoit). The same houses are still there. MS —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.32.1.14 (talk) 02:05, 19 May 2010 (UTC)Reply
Eric Lehr needs to be kept in this section. He is a locally known vocalist and pageant performer within the city and has won several awards. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.38.117.174 (talk) 04:57, 20 December 2010 (UTC)Reply
You have got to be kidding me.Spears154 (talk) 21:33, 11 January 2011 (UTC)Reply
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