Talk:Qing dynasty: Difference between revisions

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:::::Of course I needed to translate the statements as faithfully as I can, and the term 儒教 does mean Confucianism as a religion, andespecially considering that it is also explicitly listed under the section 宗教 (religion) in the textbook. It is true that ConfuciamConfucianism is often thought as a teaching, and it is often written as 儒学學 instead of 儒教 in such cases, especially in modern Chinese languageusage, but I need to faithfully translate the meaning as expressed in the said Qingcited textbook, even if I personally may not think Confucianism as a typical religion. And of course 蒙學中國地理教科書 was not (at all) the only textbook that listed 儒教as宗教, and textbooks such as 中國地理教科書 published in 1910 also listed it under 宗教 (religion), while describing it as "孔子人倫之教，不具宗教之迷信，上流社會行之". These are simply examples, and there is no need to list all of them. I am not in a strong opinion regarding the infobox (so I have not changed the content anyway), and *instead* my point is, the concept of "official religion" is not anachronistic as you mightprobably have thought earlier, as least in the late Qing period. TheWhatever the intentions of the reformers were at that time, the concept of "state religion" or "official religion" already appeared (as an *established terminology*) in that period (as clearly shown by publications during the period), so I need to point it out that you cannot really regardclaim that such concepts were anachronistic in the whole Qing period (as your earlier comment seemed to imply). This was the main point in my previous comment. Whether Confucianism is truly a religion or not is another matter (even if I personally think that Confucianism is more a teaching than a religion). Reliable sources may also consider the nature of Confucianism differently, and may also have different opinions about when Confucianism became the official religion of China. For example, the recent book "Religious Faith of the Chinese" (published in December 2017) states in [https://www.google.com/books/edition/Religious_Faith_of_the_Chinese/8qZEDwAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA25&printsec=frontcover Page 25] that "From Western Han dynasty to the Xinhai Revolution of 1911 that overthrew the Qing dynasty, the Confucian religion continued for more than 2000 years as the official religion of China", even though I am sure there are different views about this. But in any case, the concept of "state religion" or "official religion" cannot be said to be anachronistic during the entire period. --[[User:Wengier|Wengier]] ([[User talk:Wengier|talk]]) 20:10, 6 July 2024 (UTC)