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:The first Qin emperor ([[Qin Shihuang]]) proclaimed himself as emperor of China after 221 BC, he was already a crown king of Qin state before the complete conquest of six nations, therefore the empire of Qin began in 221 BC pursuant to his proclaimation at that year. The imperial dynasty of Qing was started in Manchuria in 1636, it did not turn to an empire only after the seize of Beijing, they were not even in the same basis. [[User:Sheherherhers|Sheherherhers]] ([[User talk:Sheherherhers|talk]]) 02:23, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
::Whether the state itself was an empire or not does not really matter, and it is simply not true that it had to be an empire in order to be called dynasty. For example, the Zhou dynasty is considered a ruling dynasty of China even if it was NEVER an empire. Clearly whether the dynasty was ruled by an emperor or king was not intended to be the deciding factor of the start year, and one can indeed argue that the Qin dynasty started in e.g. 256 BC (when it conquered the Zhou dynasty) or even earlier (such as when the Qin state itself was founded), although historians usually date the Qin dynasty started in 221 BC because it "unified" China at that time. --[[User:Wengier|Wengier]] ([[User talk:Wengier|talk]]) 15:20, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
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