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SVG help

Scalable Vector Graphics is a commonly used file format for providing a geometrical description of an image using basic objects such as labels, circles, lines, curves and polygons. An image can be reduced or enlarged to an arbitrary size, and will not suffer image data loss, nor will it become pixelated. SVG makes an excellent format for artwork, diagrams and drawings. SVG images are defined in XML text files. This means that they can be searched, indexed, scripted, and compressed. Since they are XML files, SVG images can be edited with any text editor, but SVG-based drawing programs are also available.

However, the rendering engine used by wiki is not perfect, and may cause the image to be shown incorrectly, or differently from how it is displayed in your vector editor of choice. This page enables authors experiencing problems with SVG graphics to obtain some help in getting their images into wiki the way they intend.

Things we can help with


Understanding SVG

  • Questions about the SVG format

Using SVG appropriately

  • When to (or not to) use SVG

What you see is not what you get

  • Missing objects from files
  • Random filled boxes in the image
  • Images that are the wrong size
  • Font inconsistencies
  • Other weird and wonderful bugs

Something new

  • Questions that you can't find a better place for

Common problems

Testing for problems

The following SVG checkers may help you to detect SVG problems before you upload:

flowRoot does not appear

a picture containing SVG1.2-valid flowRoot

If black box appear, read c:User:JoKalliauer/RepairFlowRoot how to solve this issue, but do not remove those objects since they might contain text. The workarounds that one can employ are either not to use flowed text (by using the text tool without creating a text field), or convert the text to normal text (byText-editor or sed-comand, or with Inkscape-GUI or with a Inkscape-batch), but to stroke the text using "object to path", since path-text is not recomended and increases file-size.

font-family issues

Rendering anomalies of small fonts in thumbnail views
Fallback fonts

Due to copyright restrictions, MediaWiki cannot use proprietary fonts that are commonly found on several proprietary operating systems. Fonts such as Geneva require licensing fees to distribute. rsvg will not be able to locate such fonts, and the text will fail to appear in the rendered image. There are three solutions to this issue:

  • One can substitute a font that is available on Wikipedia. This approach facilitates editability.
  • One can specify a generic font-family such as "sans-serif", "serif", or "monospace", but this can lead to inconsistent rendering. It is better to specify a font available on Wikipedia (such as Liberation Sans) with fallback fonts such as: font-family="Liberation Sans,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif", in which you define a font-list with similar fonts that at least contain one font for each Operating System such as Wikimedia (e.g. Liberation Sans), Windows (e.g. Arial), Linux (e.g. Liberation Sans), Mac (e.g. Helvetica).
  • Since local rendering should be as close as possible to Wikipedia, it should use locally the same font as it will have on Wikipedia, if available. Therefore always define a Wikimedia-font first. Also, Wikimedia has synonyms for substituting fonts, such as "Arial" for "Liberation Sans"; therefore font-family="Arial,DejaVu Sans" will be rendered by "Liberation Sans" and not (as expected) by "DejaVu Sans". (This is because "Liberation Sans" has the same letter size as "Arial" [metric-compatible], so it is less likely to mess up the text flow.)
  • Converting the text into paths increases file size, and is therefore generally disfavored (except for text logos, etc.).
  • Group the text, create a copy, and convert the copy to paths. Then either:
    1. move the original, editable non-path text into a separate editable text layer that you make transparent (warning: this might be removed by SVG optimizers), or
    2. move the original, editable non-path text outside the visible area (example: File:Essigsäuresynthesen.svg).

For ease of subsequent editing and significantly smaller file sizes, substituting the font with an available font is recommended. Many common fonts have non-proprietary alternatives that are similar in typographical style, resulting in minimal disruption to existing images during substitution. For a list of fonts available in Wikipedia, see available fonts on Meta.

Wikimedia has default fonts, and will use Liberation Serif for Times New Roman and Liberation Sans for Arial. For further fallbacks see c:Help:SVG#fallback.

Fonts that are available on Wikimedia servers may or may not be available on a visitor's machine. If the placement or appearance of text in the image is important and there is uncertainty about which fonts are installed on a visitor's machine, then converting text into path information may be necessary.

bad letter-alignment on small font-size

phab:T36947

Librsvg calculates the letter-distances inaccurantly for font-sizes of 20px and below.

For a text like

<svg viewBox="0 0 100 100" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg">
 <text x="20" y="30" font-size="5px">exampletext</text>
</svg>

you can replace it with:

<svg viewBox="0 0 1000 1000" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg">
 <text x="200" y="300" font-size="50px">exampletext</text>
</svg>

or with

<svg viewBox="0 0 100 100" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg">
 <g transform="scale(0.1)"><text x="200" y="300" font-size="50px">exampletext</text></g>
</svg>

Missing embedded JPEG images

Normal image
Broken image

When a raster graphic is embedded in an SVG it is encoded into base64 data. That data is then assigned a MIME type in the <image> element. In the case of an embedded JPEG, the MIME type is "image/jpeg". Older versions of Inkscape (and possibly other editors) assigned the MIME type "image/jpg". While Inkscape and most web browsers will display such an SVG image just fine, the MediaWiki software that rasterizes the SVG file will have trouble with it. Not recognizing the MIME type "image/jpg" there will simply be an empty space where the image is supposed to be. The fix is to open the SVG file in a text editor, find the <image> element, locate "image/jpg", change it to "image/jpeg" and re-save. At right is an example of this problem. The Commons SVG Checker looks for this problem; see Commons:Commons:Commons SVG Checker/KnownBugs#Checks for details.

Though Web browsers cope with image tags without width and height specified, librsvg ignores such images.

arc flags

phab:T217990

If circle-segmentes are distorted it is often due to reduced spaces between arc-to-flags, see phab:T217990 for details.

Further issues

Further issues can be found at c:Librsvg_bugs or at Commons:Commons:Commons SVG Checker/KnownBugs, and examples can be found at c:Category:Pictures_demonstrating_a_librsvg_bug. However most issues (for files <1MB) can be fixed using https://svgworkaroundbot.toolforge.org/ (enable "run svgcleaner" and enable "run scour" before clicking convert), for a more detailed list check c:User:SVGWorkaroundBot.

Rendering files

MediaWiki (the software from which Wikipedia is run) uses the librsvg-library to rasterize all of its svg files. The version of the rsvg program that is installed on wiki does not always correctly raster the Inkscape or OpenOffice.org SVG files, and does not recognize some formats in text-editor SVG files. The file manager GNOME Filesorc:Commons:Commons_SVG_Checker relies on librsvg, so it can be used to check the quality before a SVG is uploaded.

Rendering Inkscape files

There is a simple work-around for the scarcities of librsvg. The operation "Stroke to Path", to be found under Menu>Path in Inkscape or via Ctrl+Alt+C, can be applied to all of the objects that are not rendered correctly. To keep the SVGs editable, this should only be done to the files intended for upload, and these files can be deleted afterwards.

As of February 2014, the objects that must be modified to render correctly by librsvg include:

  • Lines with arrow heads (the arrows need to be converted)
  • Text, that has been transformed, e.g. "Text on Path"
  • Compound objects created with the binary path tools (union, intersect etc.)

Rendering OpenOffice.org SVG files

OpenOffice.org SVG files may require manual modification before being uploaded to Wikipedia. To achieve this:

  • Change all fonts to Wikipedia supported fonts as mentioned before. (E.g. change "Sans embedded" to "DejaVu Sans".)
  • Add "px" to all font-size references. (E.g. change "font-size:100" to "font-size:100px".)
  • Remove all additional x coordinate references in tspan elements. (E.g. change <tspan x="17583 17917 " y="10943">to<tspan x="17583" y="10943">.)
  • [Not required for OO 2.3.0] Explicitly colour all text (e.g. black) by replacing relevant "stroke:none;fill:none" instances with "stroke:none;fill:rgb(0,0,0)" (note that simply explicitly colouring text black in OpenOffice 3.2.1 does not appear to work).

NB: Vector graphics line widths may also need to be set explicitly in OpenOffice.org Draw.

SVG code replacement guide (executing replace all using Nedit regular expressions)
Original text Replacement text
Sans embedded DejaVu Sans
tspan x="([0-9]*) ([0-9 ]*)" tspan x="\1"

This SVG export procedure has been tested using OO 2.3.0 and OO 3.2.1 with a simple .odg candidate.

Rendering text-editor SVG files

SVG files created from scratch in a text editor may make use of any valid SVG syntax, so long as your browser supports the given version of the SVG specification. On Wikipedia however, SVGs are interpreted by the librsvg-library to create PNG previews at different image sizes. That library only recognizes a subset of all valid SVG syntax, and may render your SVG without many features. In order to bypass these deficiencies in the library, there are certain parameters that need to be formatted in specific ways or be assigned a workaround value in order for librsvg to accurately render views of your SVG file.

<mask> parameter maskUnits="userSpaceOnUse"

The librsvg-library does not interpret the value of "userSpaceOnUse" for the parameter maskUnits correctly. To bypass this issue, replace maskUnits="userSpaceOnUse" with maskUnits="-10% -10% 120% 120%", and the SVG mask will render properly on Wikipedia.

parameter stroke-dasharray

The librsvg-library does not acceptastroke-dasharray parameter with values separated by spaces. Replace all spaces with commas to bypass this issue: e.g. stroke-dasharray="2 3 2 4"stroke-dasharray="2,3,2,4"

Use xlink:href=, not href= alone, in <use ___/> statements

In Wikimedia projects, <use xlink:href="#myobjectname" transform="translate(10 10)" /> will render properly if you have specified xmlns:xlink="http://www.w3.org/1999/xlink". Be aware that href= by itself will not work on Wikimedia projects even though it might render properly if directly read by your browser.

CSS selectors or identifiers must start with a letter or hyphen

http://w3.org/TR/css-syntax-3 states, "Property names and at-rule names are always identifiers, which have to start with a letter or a hyphen..."

General concept above; examples below.
Warming stripes
(five examples compared)
Warming stripes bar chart
Bar chart (vertical)
Pie chart
Line charts
Scatterplot

I've uploaded .xlsx (Microsoft Excel) spreadsheets that automatically generate XML code for charts in SVG format.

You simply paste or enter your data into the spreadsheet, and specify image dimensions, number of grid lines, font sizes, etc. The spreadsheet instantly and automatically generates a column of XML code that you simply copy and paste into a text editor and save as an ".svg" file. The spreadsheets produce lean SVG code, avoiding the "extra stuff" that Inkscape inserts. They should save you time in creating SVG charts.

Feedback and suggestions on my talk page are welcome. RCraig09 (talk) 23:41, 19 February 2021 (UTC)Reply

Click HOW TO for detailed explanation.
Click HERE (else HERE) to download the spreadsheets.
Example SVG files: Category:SVG diagrams created with spreadsheet.
  1. Warming stripes — Accepts a single dataset and converts to SVG code portraying Ed Hawkins' warming stripes graphics. User chooses vertical or horizontal stripes; normal or reverse data ordering; or from a variety of geometric shapes (updated 17 May 2023). . . . . Click here to see examples of warming stripes embedded in different shapes.
  2. Warming stripes bar chart — Accepts a single dataset and creates a conventional bar chart whose individual bars/columns are coloured according to Dr. Hawkins' warming stripes colour scheme. Alternate option: choose one colour for ascending bars and another colour for descending bars. (updated 28 August 2023)
  3. Line charts — Accepts up to six datasets. (updated 30 August 2023)
  4. Vertical bar charts (column charts) — Accepts up to six datasets. Toggle between clustered and stacked charts; user can adjust "Yfloor"—the Y level (usually=0) from which columns rise or fall; user chooses to keep or ignore negative input values. (updated 27 August 2023)
  5. Horizontal bar charts — Accepts up to six datasets. Toggle between clustered and stacked charts; user can adjust "Yfloor"—the value (usually=0) from which bars extend; user chooses to keep or ignore negative input values. (updated 27 August 2023)
  6. Scatter plots — Accepts up to five datasets. (updated 28 August 2023)
  7. Pie charts — Accepts a single dataset of up to 36 items. (updated 17 May 2023)
  8. Variable-width bar charts — Accepts up to six datasets; is like "Vertical bar charts", above, but user can choose different widths for different bars. (updated 27 August 2023)

Assistance

If you have a tricky SVG file with a problem not described, or can't quite figure out what the previous section was talking about, you can simply ask for assistance by posting a quick note hereafter that outlines the problem, as well as providing links to the files that are exhibiting these problems. Don't forget to sign your name with four tilde symbols (~~~~) and an editor will attempt to reply here to help!

When you are happy that a request has been fulfilled, just leave a note so that the request can be archived later, as needed.

An alternative source of help is Commons:Graphics village pump.

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Alpha and beta characters not rendering

This is in  

<text x="906" y="360" fill="fuchsia">&#x03B1;%</text><text x="930" y="360" fill="green">&#x03B2;%</text>

JWB (talk) 13:48, 24 March 2023 (UTC)Reply

Do the characters exist in the DejaVu Sans font as installed on the Wikimedia servers used by librsvg at Commons? --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 19:24, 24 March 2023 (UTC)Reply
They might not have in 2010, but after I switched the font to Noto Sans I noticed that https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/archive/c/cc/20230326053935!Sasahara.svg/491px-Sasahara.svg.png (newly generated thumbnail, but still with DejaVu Sans) looks fine. Probably just a very old thumbnail that stuck around. @JWB: feel free to revert if you prefer the other font, both versions should work now. AntiCompositeNumber (talk) 05:44, 26 March 2023 (UTC)Reply
@JWB: I checked now the rendering of the old file it seems to work even with the old file. As @AntiCompositeNumber: already said it is related that it has been rendered in 2010, and ?action=purge most likely would have been enougth.  — Johannes Kalliauer - contrib. 14:50, 7 April 2023 (UTC)Reply

png view of an svg file with right-to-left (Hebrew) text is off place.

I did not succeed in fixing this:  

c:File:אינקרטינים וחוסמי DPP-4.svg

I will appreciate any help. Nirts (talk) 13:18, 7 April 2023 (UTC)Reply

@Nirts: Please add at least one category to this file. If you don’t have the time adding a category (that’s the uploaders duty), then I don’t have the time helping you. If you need help adding a category feel free to ask.  — Johannes Kalliauer - contrib. 14:43, 7 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
I've added the same categories as in the English-language version.
Separately, I'm worried about the claim that Nirts is the original "author" (vs. Ilmari Karonen ?), and its resulting licensing. —RCraig09 (talk) 15:35, 7 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
Thanks. I Corrected that field. Nirts (talk) 19:47, 7 April 2023 (UTC)Reply

Another rSVG text rendering bug?

I've run into two tspan-related problems that caused lines of text to be wrongly moved to the right: one was italicization and one was subscripting.

Removing the tspan specifications solved the problem, so you'll have to look at earlier versions on the file description pages to see the problems.


 
See Version 3: the "portion of..." text is wrongly moved to the right.

The second line of the two was moved improperly to the right. Removing the tspan font-style="italic" specification solved the problem.

      <g font-family="Liberation Sans,sans-serif" font-size="40px" text-anchor="middle" fill="black">

<g transform="translate(800,205)">

<text><tspan font-style="italic">Areas</tspan> of rectangles show</text>
<text y="48">portion of attempts that are <tspan font-style="italic">lethal</tspan>:</text>

</g>
      </g>

Removing the tspan baseline-shift="sub" specification solved the problem.

 
See Version 2: the title at the top was wrongly moved to the right (now it isn't, for some reason!)
      <g font-family="Liberation Sans,sans-serif" text-anchor="middle" font-size="30">

<text x="535" y="56" font-size="45px">National wealth and CO<tspan baseline-shift="sub" font-size="35">2</tspan> emissions</text>

      </g>

Does anyone know if this an old problem? Or how to solve or avoid it? I'm now afraid to use tspan at all! Thanks for any observations or advice. —RCraig09 (talk) 17:43, 25 April 2023 (UTC)Reply

@RCraig09: Maybe phab:T200443. If you provide a minimal (not) working example, you will beter understand the cause of it and how to make workarounds.  — Johannes Kalliauer - contrib. 18:40, 25 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
Thanks, @JoKalliauer: It looks like it's a problem that will have to be avoided rather than be solved. I plan to experiment further. —RCraig09 (talk) 19:09, 25 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
@RCraig09: Strange that the c-librsvg2.40.21 renders it correctly at https://svgcheck.toolforge.org/index.php, see phab:T335415 for details. This issue might get fixed with phab:T216815 (c-librsvg2.40 is abandoned software since 2017, see c:Librsvg_bugs for details) and it could be definitely fixed with phab:T40010.  — Johannes Kalliauer - contrib. 15:11, 26 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
 
Related bug?
Unsure if it's related to this one which I previously reported. cmɢʟeeτaʟκ 07:12, 27 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
@Cmglee: first version of 1/2n doesn't render correctly on https://svgcheck.toolforge.org/index.php (=identical to Commons). Therfore phab:T335415 is different to phab:T200443, however both bugs might be triggered by the same root. Thanks for the example.  — Johannes Kalliauer - contrib. 16:33, 27 April 2023 (UTC)Reply

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