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Is the agency parameter still working in the Cite book template? It is listed as an active template parameter on Template:Cite_book/TemplateData but the template is throwing up Unknown parameter errors, e.g. Template:Cite_OED_1933/doc Skullcinema (talk) 14:04, 26 April 2024 (UTC)Reply
[[Template:Cite_OED_1933/doc|here]]
→ here.|agency=
in templates that shouldn't support that parameter was removed as a result of this discussion. |agency=
is defined for {{cite news}}
, {{cite press release}}
, and {{cite web}}
. Also supported by {{citation}}
when that template has |newspaper=
or|work=
.|agency=
in book citations in cleaning up CS1 errors. All the ones I have seen should instead have been |publisher=
. I have seen no evidence that |agency=
is actually a useful and meaningful parameter for these citations. —David Eppstein (talk) 02:09, 27 April 2024 (UTC)Reply
|agency=
would you have another option for crediting the Society within the citation? — Skullcinema (talk) 15:55, 3 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
|others=
be appropriate? e.g.
Can we please not remove parameters breaking hundreds or thousands of article citations? The agency parameter was used in tons of {{cite report}}
citations for weather-related articles citing NOAA government offices / agencies. Even if your argument is that these are "incorrect" or whatever, really seems bad to just break literally thousands of citations with no backup plan. Master of Time (talk) 09:11, 28 April 2024 (UTC)Reply
{{cite report}}
templates that have |agency=
and where the article, somewhere, contains the word 'weather'.|publisher=
us unnecessarily duplicated in |agency=
:
{{cite report|agency=National Centers for Environmental Information|title=Storm Events Database January 25, 2021|url=https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/stormevents/eventdetails.jsp?id=938002|publisher=National Centers for Environmental Information|access-date=May 5, 2021|archive-date=May 10, 2021|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20210510142454/https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/stormevents/eventdetails.jsp?id=938002|url-status=live}}
{{Cite report |url=https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/stormevents/eventdetails.jsp?id=972354 |title=Pennsylvania Event Report: EF2 Tornado |publisher=National Centers for Environmental Information |agency=National Weather Service Weather Forecast Office in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania |year=2021 |accessdate=December 18, 2021 |archive-date=December 18, 2021 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20211218061648/https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/stormevents/eventdetails.jsp?id=972354 |url-status=live }}
The category CS1 errors: unsupported parameter currently has more than 3000 pages listed, the majority for |agency=
. Some are fixable, but what about when the citation has something different for |publisher=
?.--Auric talk 13:06, 29 April 2024 (UTC)Reply
|agency=
is not now, nor ever has been, an alias or synonym of |publisher=
. If the source is delivered by some provider other than the publisher, use |via=
to hold the name of the provider.|agency=
has been a shorthand name for a parameter holding the wire agency of a news story, to properly credit that the origin of a news article in a paper was the Associated Press/United Press International/Agence France-Presse/etc. and not the cited newspaper itself, with or without any additional reporter byline. Imzadi 1979 → 22:31, 29 April 2024 (UTC)Reply
As the parameter |agency=
has been removed, how should the entry for it on Template:Cite_book/TemplateData be corrected? Should it just be deleted from the table? — Skullcinema (talk) 16:06, 3 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
Relatedly, Citation bot has recently been adding agency= to cite book templates: see User talk:Citation bot/Archive 38#Adds unknown parameter to CS1 and Special:Diff/1221981567. —David Eppstein (talk) 19:26, 9 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
The description of the collaboration parameter says:
collaboration: Name of a group of authors or collaborators; requires author, last, or vauthors listing one or more primary authors; follows author name-list; appends "et al." to author name-list.
When collaboration is supplied, but author is not, the current behavior is to not display the name of the collaboration at all.
The problem is that there are studies for which the primary authors are not known. For example, the following rather important study, referenced in Euler–Heisenberg Lagrangian, has 397 authors, none of them marked as primary: "Measurement of e+e− Momentum and Angular Distributions from Linearly Polarized Photon Collisions". Listing the first few names from an alphabetically sorted list of authors makes no sense. The current behavior forces me to use author for the name of the collaboration.
I propose to change the description and the behavior of collaboration so that it only requires supplying the primary authors if they are known, still displaying the name of the collaboration if author is empty. — UnladenSwallow (talk) 18:45, 1 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
|author=
parameter? Corporate authorship is pretty normal in a lot of areas. Unless I'm misunderstanding something – always a strong possibility – it seems like the behaviour requested here would render on the page exactly the same as |author=Collaboration Name
. What probem am I missing here? Folly Mox (talk) 22:14, 1 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
collaboration
parameter, whether the names of the principal authors are available or not.collaboration
tocollective-author
and require that collective authors (such as corporate authors, commissions, collaborations, etc.) always go there, so that the authorn
parameters are only used for single humans. — UnladenSwallow (talk) 22:37, 2 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
|org-authorn=
before which would also skip our checks for commas and semicolons and allow us to remove a lot of uses of ((name_triggering_checks))
. Izno (talk) 17:11, 3 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
Listing the first few names from an alphabetically sorted list of authors makes no senseisn't really true here. It makes less sense in the minds of various academics (concerned primarily with credit) than it does here, but even in the academic world and especially here, listing the first few names enables one to easily find the paper (or whatever it is) via various means, in most cases, because such a work will typically be indexed in various dabases, bibliographies, card catalogues, etc., by a partial or complete list of named authors, alphabetically by family name. It is crucial to remember that our citations exist for helping our readers find and make use of the sources, not for making academics happy about the frequency of their names appearing.
|collective-author=
or|org-author=
parameter would simply be a redundant alias of |author=
(or|authorn=
), which already serves that purpose. This entire discussion makes me question the necessity or wisdom of a |collaboration=
parameter in the first place. I have yet to run into it "in the wild" (despite over 18 years and 200K+ non-automated edits) and have never used it. There has never been a case of a citation I needed to build, no matter the complexity of the authorship, editorial process, and publishing, that I could not do entirely sensibly with other parameters, even if it ends up being something like: ... |last1=Chen
|first2=Xie-luan
|author1-mask=Chen Zie-luan
|last2=Smith
|first2=J. P.
|author3=Legume Projectiles Workgroup
|display-authors=etal
|translator-last=O'Brien
|translator-first=Maeve
|others=McNabb, John (illustrator)
|editor1-last=Gutierrez
|editor1-first=Selena
|editor2=Foostuffs Momentum Committee
|publisher=X. Y. Zedman & Co., for the Ministry of Foodfights
.... — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 16:11, 11 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
I have suggested a. I would love for|org-authorn=
before which would also skip our checks for commas and semicolons and allow us to remove a lot of uses of|author=((a_name_triggering_checks))
|author=
to fill the role of "only organizational names", but it's not that today, it's a template-level synonym for |last=
and a lot of people also use it for |author=last, first
, which maybe at some date we can instead have a more strict change to support catching those uses also, in favor of moving to |org-author=
parameters........... Izno (talk) 21:46, 13 June 2024 (UTC)ReplyI'm seeking clarification on the placement of the ISSN parameter in {{cite journal}}. Specifically, what are the arguments for displaying the ISSN after the DOI and other article identifiers, rather than directly after the journal name?
For context, the ISSN is an identifier for the journal as a whole, not the individual article. Here are two examples to illustrate my point:
In Example 1, the ISSN is listed after the DOI, suggesting it is an identifier for the article. In Example 2, the ISSN is placed after the journal name, clearly indicating it is an identifier for the journal.
I believe that if we display the ISSN, it should be positioned to reflect that it identifies the journal. This would avoid confusion and provide a clearer reference structure. Alternatively, we could consider not displaying the ISSN at all in citations.
What are the current reasons for the existing placement of the ISSN, and would it be possible to revise the format for better clarity?
Thank you for your input. Jonatan Svensson Glad (talk) 19:21, 5 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
Doe, J. (2024). "Research on Sample Topics". ''Sample Journal'', ISSN 1234-5678. doi:10.1234/abcd.5678.
Here, the journal identifier (ISSN) is clearly linked to the journal name, and the article identifier (DOI) follows as part of the article-specific details.Doe, J. (2024). "Research on Sample Topics". ''Sample Journal'', ISSN 1234-5678. doi:10.1234/abcd.5678, PMID 12345678.
|series=
if present. It not present (e.g. because the books in the series all share the same title and are only distinguished by volume number), then I guess it belongs after |title=
, and sorted with other book-level identifiers like ISBN or a whole-book DOI. If the chapter/contribution has its own DOI, then that should adhere right after the chapter/contribution, I would think. In short: the desire to group and sort identifiers is reasonable, but only to the extent they are the same type and that grouping and sorting them does not confuse or mislead our reader. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 15:42, 11 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
Just saw this in "Tech News: 2024-24":
- The HTML markup used for citations by Parsoid changed last week. In places where Parsoid previously added the
mw-reference-text
class, Parsoid now also adds thereference-text
class for better compatibility with the legacy parser. More details are available. [1]- ...
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 11 June. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 12 June. It will be on all wikis from 13 June (calendar). [2][3]
- The new version of MediaWiki includes another change to the HTML markup used for citations: Parsoid will now generate a
<span class="mw-cite-backlink">
wrapper for both named and unnamed references for better compatibility with the legacy parser. Interface administrators should verify that gadgets that interact with citations are compatible with the new markup. More details are available. [4]
— SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 15:31, 11 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
Several templates have the same issue with formatting, so I'm posting here. I'll leave a link at the less-watched talk page of each template below.
There are many specific-source templates that wrap a CS1/CS2 template. Previously, template formatting could be set with the |mode=
parameter in each template. Now, the formatting can be set for the whole article using {{CS1 config|mode=}}
. Some specific-source templates wrap the general purpose CS2 {{Citation}} and use |mode=cs1
. Because this emits the message "{{cite book}}: CS1 maint: overridden setting (link)
" and adds the page to a tracking category, the templates should be converted into CS1 wrapper templates. (Or fixed in some other way.)
Template | Proposed wrapper | Result |
---|---|---|
{{Calflora}} | {{Cite web}} | |
{{Cite form 990}} | {{Cite document}} | |
{{Cite Transperth timetable}} | {{Cite web}} | |
{{Cite UN World Population Prospects}} | {{Cite web}} | |
{{EFloras}} | {{Cite web}} | |
{{FEIS}} | {{Cite web}} | |
{{Jepson eFlora}} | {{Cite web}} | |
{{Minnesota Wildflowers}} | {{Cite web}} | |
{{Silvics}} | {{Cite book}} | |
{{Tropicos/main}} | {{Cite web}} |
Side note: the handful of CS2 map templates like {{Cite gnis2}} have a similar issue, Rjjiii (talk) 16:31, 12 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
Fixed @Rjjiii: I created Module:Citation mode which suppresses a mode argument when {{CS1 config}} is set. I edited all of the templates you listed, above, to call the module for the mode argument that they pass to their inner {{Citation}} template. For a simple example of usage, see {{cite gnis2}}.
I'm not seeing any changes in the overriden-setting tracking category: I suspect that the current members of that category are caused by some other problem.
Feel free to use Module:Citation mode or let me know if you see any problems. — hike395 (talk) 12:58, 13 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
I came across a case where an legitimate article was archived at archive.org. The original article was subsequently moved to a different website with a completely different path, and the original website (about.com) became black-listed by wikipedia (assuming unfit for citation). Shouldn't we have parameter "url-status = moved", or something like that to reflect what happened? Because the other parameters don't seem to apply (the new site isn't dead or unfit, or usurped), and "live" would apply, except that the archived link no longer matches the live link because of the move. Dhrm77 (talk) 18:45, 14 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
|url-status=
has one purpose, to change the appearance of the primary link. A soft-redirect situation would not require a change in how the URL is displayed that is not already done with existing modes like live and dead. The new URL has a "live" status. That it doesn't match the archive-url is not really a problem this happens frequently, sometimes when a page moves, sometimes when the citation is created editors use a different archive URL from the primary URL. -- GreenC 20:05, 14 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
Not sure if this is the correct place for a suggestion for the template. I am not comfortable with sending edit requests for templates (yet), so I figured I'd put it here.
If you insert an archive link into web templates, such as https://web.archive.org/web/20240615012051/http://example.com/, you can see in the url in the highlighted area that the date is present in the url. Given so, why is the archive date field required when the date is provided through the url? If you input the wrong date into the template, a mismatch error is thrown and it shows the correct date. If it knows the correct date, why not correct the error?
I am aware that not all archiving services provide the date handily in the url, but since the Internet Archive is the largest one, can't the template make an exception for the Archive? I know it's not a huge deal, but it is still another thing to type and check.
Sorry if I'm not making very much sense, I am still learning about how all of this works. Thank you. EatingCarBatteries (contributions, talk) 05:56, 16 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
|trans-series=
request{{cite book|
and accompanying numbering
I need several sub title parameters for {{cite book|
because the template as it now exists is difficult to work with.
For example, if I'm citing the Corpus of Hieroglyphic Luwian Inscriptions:
Despite the recommendations I have received during my previous requests here, this is not working for me. I am having trouble adding proper titles in the template for several publications whose titles and sub-titles are similarly extensive.
Along with this, there also needs to be accompanying series numeration, volume numeration, and parts numeration.
{{cite encyclopedia|
I would also need {{cite encyclopedia|
to also have a numbering or part accompanying the titles.
For example, the entry for Que in the Reallexikon der Assyriologie und Vorderasiatischen Archäologie has a part A written by J.D. Hawkins and a part B written by D. Syrmington.
And several more sources I cite have similar entries divided into several parts, which are either labelled with a letter of the alphabet or a number.
I need a parameter to add this numeration.
|trans-series
I also need a translation option for series names in languages other than English.
Additionally, which citation template should I use when citing a dictionary?
For example, if I am citing the eDiAna Dictionary, which has sections for various languages and entries that are divided into several parts written by multiple authors, which citation template should I use? Antiquistik (talk) 15:37, 16 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
{{cite book |chapter=<Foobar> |title=Corpus of Hieroglyphic Luwian Inscriptions – Volume 1: Inscriptions of the Iron Age |series=Series in Indo-European Language and Culture |volume=<xxx> |page=<yyy> }}
will give "<Foobar>". Corpus of Hieroglyphic Luwian Inscriptions – Volume 1: Inscriptions of the Iron Age. Series in Indo-European Language and Culture. Vol. <xxx>. p. <yyy>.|trans-series=
would be helpful; I come up against this periodically, and it feels weird to cram the translation into the same parameter after splitting it out for the previous two.|subtitle=
idea, I do low-key agree that adding one could be helpful, but not for reasons of unwieldiness (any solution where the source is "Chapter" in Title: Named Volume, Part something is going to be unwieldy).|title-link=
for a source we have an article about, but multiple named volumes comprise the title, so I end up with Science and Civilization in China: vol. 4 Physics and Physical Technology, part 1: Physics, with the entire title linking the article Science and Civilization in China.|subtitle=
is for links to old books on Internet Archive or HathiTrust (or, decreasingly commonly, Project Gutenberg), where the title is something fashionably lengthy for the turn of the twentieth century like Travels and researches in Chaldæa and Susiana; with an account of excavations at Warka, the Erech of Nimrod, and Shúsh, Shushan the Palace of Esther, in 1849–52orBismya; or The lost city of Adab : a story of adventure, of exploration, and of excavation among the ruins of the oldest of the buried cities of Babylonia, and the whole dang thing gets bluelinked across three lines by the |url=
parameter, because there's no way to cordon off the main part of the title for linking or put an external link inside the |title=
parameter, and any other parameter I try to kludge the subtitle into doesn't concatenate next to the title but instead is separated by other information.
I'm not quite clever enough to figure out how {{Use dmy dates}}
and {{EngvarB}}
don't emit a linebreak, but {{CS1 config}}
and {{bots}}
presently do. Does it have to do with Module:Unsubst somehow? In any case, would it be possible to have the same behavior for the latter templates, as I presently have to put them on the same line at the top of articles. Remsense诉 12:43, 18 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
Looks like PMIDs started ticking over 38900000 in the past couple of days. An article referencing 38900028 showed up in the tracking category and it is valid. Masterzora (talk) 03:59, 23 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
"The Antisemitism Policy Trust" causes a generic name error (here). I marked it accept-this-as-written. Was that correct? I can't find any other author on the report. What is causing it to be flagged? AlmostReadytoFly (talk) 14:56, 26 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
|author=
includes the word policy. I would have written that template this way:
{{cite web |title= Conspiracy Theories: A Guide for Members of Parliament and Candidates |website=The Antisemitism Policy Trust |url= https://antisemitism.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/Conspiracy-Theory-Guide.pdf |access-date= 11 June 2024}}
An increasing number of websites, particularly in the news and information space, require you to disable your adblocker to access their content. While this is not quite the same as a paywall or registration requirement, it is still an annoyance. I therefore propose that the "Subscription or registration required" parameter at Template:Cite web should have a variable added to indicate that the website requires adblock disabling for access. BD2412 T 18:02, 26 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
|foo-access=
parameter|foo-access=
parameter, e.g., |url-access=limited-noadblocker
|foo-access=
parameter take a list of two subparameters|url-access= subscription
to any source, meaning that we have tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of citations to subscription-only sources with no red padlock icons. Folly Mox (talk) 11:25, 27 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
|url-access=ads
?Folly Mox (talk) 17:49, 27 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
(subscription or advertising required)
I can't access the URL https://tvlistings.zap2it.com/overview.html?programSeriesId=SH01739244&aid=gapzap and marked it as dead, however another editor can apparently access it. Is there some kind of parameter that should be used here to note this? I was looking at {{Cite web}} but didn't find one. Gonnym (talk) 11:29, 27 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
Any CS1 citation templates ends with "." However, this does not happen if a) |quote=
is used and its value does not end with "."; and b) no other parameter injects content into the rendered citation after the quotation content. Example:
{{cite book |editor1-last=Jenny |editor1-first=M. |editor2-last=Sidwell |editor2-first=P. |chapter=Reconstructing Austroasiatic prehistory |date=2015 |title=Handbook of the Austroasiatic Languages |location=Leiden |publisher=Brill |page=1 |quote=Sagart (2011) and Bellwood (2013) favour the middle Yangzi |ref=none}}
renders as:
Sagart (2011) and Bellwood (2013) favour the middle Yangzi
— SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 10:45, 28 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
!.
, ?.
, etc. This functionality was established long before we had |postscript=none
.Reconstructing Austroasiatic prehistoryatdoi:10.1163/9789004283572, nor any chapter by that name across Brill. (Also I guess add a four dots sentence-terminal ellipsis to the quote as a workaround?) Folly Mox (talk) 14:34, 30 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
cs1|2 is somewhat schizophrenic when validating |year=
. If I write:
{{cite book |title=Title |year=August 2023}}
→ Title. August 2023.no error even though 'August 2023' is not a 'year'. But, if I write:
{{cite book |title=Title |year=August 2023 |date=August 2023}}
→ Title. August 2023. {{cite book}}
: Check date values in: |year=
(help)CS1 maint: date and year (link)there is an error message because 'August 2023' is not a 'year'.
I propose to add a maintenance category to identify cs1|2 templates that have |year=
where the assigned value is not YYY
, YYYY
, their circa forms, year-only ranges, and with or without CITEREF
disambiguators. To make cs1|2 consistent in how it validates |year=
I propose that we define |year=
so that it may only hold one of the year formats named above. To accomplish that, we need to know where noncompliant |year=
year parameters exist so that they may be repaired before a fix is made in Module:Citation/CS1/Date validation. The category is necessary because there are a so many non-cs1|2 templates that use |year=
that Cirrus searching is woefully inadequate.
Yea or nay?
—Trappist the monk (talk) 15:53, 29 June 2024 (UTC) 13:24, 30 June 2024 (UTC) (modified)Reply
|year=2020–2022
, be treated? -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 01:03, 30 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
|date=2020–2022
. Clearly there will be whining about this so I have modified the proposed definition of |year=
.|date=
and |year=
explained at Help talk:Citation Style 1/Archive 31#Preference between year or date parameter in Cite Journal. Two editors mention using |year=
to discourage future editors/bots from changing "YYYY" to something like "January YYYY" arbitrarily. Rjjiii (talk) 07:27, 30 June 2024 (UTC)Reply|year=
parameters become errors categorized in the already existing ‹The template Category link is being considered for merging.› Category:CS1 errors: dates."Volume values that are wholly digits, wholly uppercase Roman numerals, or fewer than five characters will appear in bold." Why is bold text used in these cases? - BobKilcoyne (talk) 05:47, 30 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
Why has this template recently changed from correctly citing references from the Clyde Ships website, such as https://www.clydeships.co.uk/view.php?ref=10727 and is now translating them to show them as Google, such as https://www.google.com.hk/?ref=10727&gws_rd=ssl ? Johnragla (talk) 20:16, 30 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
The cite magazine template should support the |agency parameter - for example this article https://www.golfdigest.com/story/golf-hope-ap should be cited as "Vegas Hangs On". Golf Digest. January 23, 2011. {{cite magazine}}
: Unknown parameter |agency=
ignored (help) - but that throws an error. Some magazines do use news agencies so this should be a supported parameter. Tewapack (talk) 19:39, 2 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
Maybe I'm bad at reading comprehension, but I couldn't find how to add a new supported language code on the page Template:Citation Style documentation/language/doc. Can anyone help please? Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 12:14, 3 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
mw.language.fetchLanguageNames(lang, 'all')
. To be displayed at Template:Citation Style documentation/language/doc MediaWiki must have support for the language name/tag.Hi, @Trappist the monk, it's me again, from Help talk:Citation Style 1/Archive 93#Limits. As I could see today by chance, my suggestion was excepted, and tabular data is a part of the code now, isn't it? IKhitron (talk) 23:45, 3 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
I tried to use {{ill}} inside a {{cite journal}}, like this:
* {{cite journal |author={{ill|Reinhold Merkelbach|de|Reinhold Merkelbach}} |title=Zwei neue orphisch-dionysische Totenpässe |lang=de |journal=Zeitschrift für Papyrologie und Epigraphik |number=76 |year=1989 |pages=15–16 |url=https://www.jstor.org/stable/20187001}}
But that currently renders without any wikilink, like this:
{{cite journal}}
: Check |author=
value (help)CS1 maint: multiple names: authors list (link) CS1 maint: numeric names: authors list (link)Is this bad interaction fixable by someone who knows about templates? --Quuxplusone (talk) 14:46, 6 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
|author-link=:de:Reinhold Merkelbach
, which has the desired effect. Folly Mox (talk) 14:49, 6 July 2024 (UTC)Reply{{ill}}
produces this:
[[Reinhold Merkelbach]]<span class="noprint" style="font-size:85%; font-style: normal; "> [[[:de:Reinhold Merkelbach|de]]]</span>
|author=
wants to see only a single name (which may be wikilinked) but it certainly does not want to see the styling that {{ill}}
adds.|author=[[:de:Reinhold Merkelbach|Reinhold Merkelbach]]
author-link
or otherwise) is right out. I'll leave it as-is for now, but I hope this can be fixed someday. (For example, by finding whatever innards of the author
field currently "want[] to see only a single name (which may be wikilinked)" and whitelisting {{ill}} as a valid possibility there, too.) --Quuxplusone (talk) 17:39, 6 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
{{cite journal |author=[[:de:Reinhold Merkelbach|Reinhold Merkelbach]] |title=Zwei neue orphisch-dionysische Totenpässe |lang=de|journal=Zeitschrift für Papyrologie und Epigraphik |number=76|year=1989 |pages=15–16 |url=https://www.jstor.org/stable/20187001}}
[[:xx:Name]]
, will AFAIK forever prevent those links to be automatically converted to a local link if an article for that author gets written here. I wonder if this could be improved if the templates added a tracking category in those cases (in article space only) so that User:Cewbot's task #1, run by User:Kanashimi, has a way of locating this usage. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 00:54, 7 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
"cs1|2 annotates interwiki-linked author names so that readers can see that the interwiki-linked author name is at a non-English Wikipedia" — Oh, that's awesome! I recommend tweaking the formatting just a little bit, so that instead of displaying as "Reinhold Merkelbach [in German]" it would display as "Reinhold Merkelbach [de]". (That's trivial, and would also address Michael Bednarek's defect report.) And then perhaps instead of making the user have to know to type [[:de:Thing|Thing]], permit them to type {{ill|Thing|de|Thing}}. That would have the effect of accomplishing what I'm looking for, as a very small modification of what you've already implemented. --Quuxplusone (talk) 17:41, 7 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
In a conversation at Template talk:Internet Archive#Registration required parameter it was pointed out that {{Cite book}} does not produce an external link indicator for a title URL if |url-access=
is specified:
What's the rationale? -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 14:26, 7 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
[https://example.com/document.pdf A PDF Document]
→ A PDF Document
Smith, Adam (July 7, 2024). Title (Speech). Event. Location. {{cite speech}}
: Unknown parameter |transcript-url=
ignored (help) Amayorov (talk) 17:59, 7 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
|transcript=
and |transcript-url=
were not supported by {{cite speech}}
in its wikitext (old) form so they are not supported in its current Module:Citation/CS1 form:Wikitext | {{cite speech
|
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Old | Smith, Adam (July 7, 2024). Title (Speech). Event. Location. https://www.example.com. |
Live | Smith, Adam (July 7, 2024). Title (Speech). Event. Location. {{cite speech}} : Unknown parameter |transcript-url= ignored (help); Unknown parameter |transcript= ignored (help)
|
|transcript=Transcript Title
to your example so that |transcript-url=
would have something to link if it did work.
|transcript=
parameters are supported by {{cite av media}}
and {{cite episode}}
.|transcripturl=
has been withdrawn globally. Nearly a year later, that table will be emptied at the next module suite update when support for |authors=
is withdrawn.The redirect Wikipedia:Lua cites has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 July 8 § Wikipedia:Lua cites until a consensus is reached. Nickps (talk) 13:48, 8 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
Module:Citation has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. Nickps (talk) 16:01, 8 July 2024 (UTC)Reply