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    Use of quotations in List of Cthulhu Mythos books

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    I've been working on style edits in List of Cthulhu Mythos books As a reader unfamiliar with Cthulhu Mythos, the long quote at the beginning of Testaments of Carnamagos section https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_Cthulhu_Mythos_books&action=edit&section=36 is much clearer than a lot of the other sections written from in-narrative perspective. Would this format be worthwhile to standardize across the article? Or maybe including a quote in each section would be too long in an already lengthy article? Agnieszka653 (talk) 19:50, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    @Agnieszka653 I'm afraid that Teahouse hosts tend to be generalists who provide advice about editing, and are not specialists in arcane literature. On the other hand, that list has 85 page watchers, who are, presumably, interested in it. You should use the Talk Page to ask your question and perhaps mention you have started a discussion on the Talk Page of the Horror Project which relates to it. Mike Turnbull (talk) 20:16, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks for the advice @Michael D. Turnbull
    I thought I saw something in the style guide about not overusing quotes so that's why I tried here first ~~~ Agnieszka653 (talk) 17:39, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    As a fan of the Mythos, I think your 'standardisation' plan for this article is an excellent one, and I don't think overall length is a problem, since the Contents box enables easy navigation. I encourage you to continue. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 94.2.67.235 (talk) 11:12, 20 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Approached by a company offering free consultancy for Wikipedia articles

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    Hello all, I recently received an email from a company sharing that they can provide free consultancy services for drafting and editing Wikipedia articles. I also noticed that their company name is listed on this Wikipedia workpage here under the "List of paid editing companies." I am uncertain if this is an acceptable practice. May I seek some advice? Thank you! Ccyfferent (talk) 03:58, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Hey there @Ccyfferent! Usually this is a scam of some sort. If it's okay, can I get the name of the company to see if they are disclosed or not? Sir MemeGod ._. (talk - contribs - created articles) 04:02, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Ignore them. The best advice you can get for editing is here, and already free. CMD (talk) 04:06, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Actually, ignore my above statement, CMD's advice is probably better for you. Sir MemeGod ._. (talk - contribs - created articles) 04:08, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Sir MemeGod Thank you! I appreciate your quick reply and advice! Ccyfferent (talk) 03:39, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Chipmunkdavis Thank you, and well noted! Ccyfferent (talk) 03:41, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Ccyfferent, undisclosed paid editing is prohibited. Disclosed paid editing is allowed, however very few of us actually think it's a good thing, it is mostly just tolerated, begrudgingly. Any paid advocate would still be editing for their client as an individual editor, and would have to abide by all the rules same as everyone else, plus a few more:
    1. They need to disclose their client and employer.
    2. They may only submit drafts and make edit requests on the talk page of articles. Direct editing of articles would be limited to fixing typos and vandalisms.
    3. Incompetence and time-wasting is tolerated less. They may not, for example, keep rehashing the same issues, keep posting walls of text and demand that volunteers review their proposals on their schedule.
    If you do hire a paid editor and their conduct is poor, it will forever tarnish the reputation among Wikipedia editors of whichever topic they happen to be working for. If the topic is of wider interest, the misconduct is often even picked up by the media. The subject will invite closer scrutiny in the future. For example, a new article on a borderline notable topic is much more likely to be tolerated or not urgently sought deletion of, if created by an independent volunteer with some track record, than if it has prior history of having been pushed by paid editors or single purpose accounts with apparent conflicts of interest.
    Generally, I would advise that you refrain from hiring a paid service to write for you unless you are okay with losing your money and getting no results, with some likelihood of it getting back to you and tarnishing your reputation in real life. That is the most common outcome.
    Regards! — Usedtobecool ☎️ 04:34, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    "Free" can be bait-and-switch, meaning they offer a "free" service, but for a fee can assign you to one of their more experienced editors. And so on, and so on. David notMD (talk) 17:02, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I would read "free consultancy" as a sales pitch. — Usedtobecool ☎️ 10:58, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you, @David notMD, for your input! Noted. Ccyfferent (talk) 03:36, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you, @Usedtobecool! I appreciate your sharing and advice! Ccyfferent (talk) 03:33, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Adding a image for a article

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    I am attempting to create a draft article for "andamiro" (https://www.andamiro.com/global/), as it is a red link on many dance-game related articles.

    However, the article seems barren without a proper company logo beside it. I am unsure how to add this, due to the process of actually adding the image talking about sorts of "CCL"'s that i personally have no idea about. HyperNover (talk) 23:48, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

     
    Andamiro logo
    @HyperNover: Welcome to the Teahouse! I've uploaded the logo to Wikimedia Commons, the media repository used by Wikipedia. Since this logo is simple enough, it falls doesn't meet the threshold of originality and is considered to be in the public domain, free to use. It's now located at File:Andamiro logo.png, so you can add that to your draft article using [[File:Andamiro logo.png|thumb|Andamiro logo]] to achieve the result shown here. Hope this helps—let me know if you have any further questions! Bsoyka (tcg) 00:07, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Many thanks! Am I allowed to ask for review here? I'm still new to this, but this is my draft. Draft:Andamiro (Company) HyperNover (talk) 00:16, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @HyperNover: Sure! The main issue here, from a quick look, is that you haven't added any sources to the article that would establish Andamiro's notability. Per our general notability guideline, A topic is presumed to be suitable for a stand-alone article or list when it has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject. Andamiro has to pass this test before an article about it can exist. Out of the four references in your draft so far, two are links to the company's website (not independent), and two are to user-generated content (a forum and Wikipedia itself, not reliable). You'll need to do more research to find better sources before your draft will pass a review. Bsoyka (tcg) 00:23, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Can you give me some examples of what to look for?
    Not really sure what independent sources i'm supposed to reference, i thought that meant like personal discussions separated from company
    i got the alert that i wasn't supposed to reference wikipedia itself.
    Is this like, news articles?
    The whole company seems pretty notable to me, i'm not sure how to prove that either.
    Besides this, i'm curious as if i wrote this from a preferred perspective. HyperNover (talk) 00:30, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Also, @Bsoyka (i think im supposed to do this)
    Does that mean i have to remove my independant sources? ex: [3], [4] HyperNover (talk) 00:33, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I have since updated the page again, may you please give it another lookover? i gave some more references. @Bsoyka
    Please let me know if you wish to no longer be bothered. HyperNover (talk) 01:22, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @HyperNover: No worries! I definitely concur with Hoary's suggestions below—take a look at those. Bsoyka (tcg) 02:24, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Draft:Andamiro (Company)
    @Hoary@Bsoyka How's this for references? I tried to stick towards articles and news postings, rather than forum pages and alternate miscelanious websites. Other than what i've found, and basic knowledge that would be confusing to challenge, it's been difficult to find other references. HyperNover (talk) 02:46, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    My submission was declined for not enough references
    while this is unfortunate, i'm seriously at a lack for finding what i'm actually supposed to add
    the pages regarding referencing and high quality sources are far too advanced for my english skills, and i'm not exactly sure what else i'm supposed to reference HyperNover (talk) 06:55, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Draft:Andamiro
    Welp, i'm off to bed, pretty proud of myself here.
    thank you hoary and bsoyka, along with RichSmith, qc, and jeske! HyperNover (talk) 09:01, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I have 15 references and yet i still dont know why im being denied
    they all seem like very reliable news releases and book excerpts. HyperNover (talk) 03:24, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    HyperNover, remove any reference to Wikipedia. Remove any reference to the company itself for any achievement (such as that the company "was qualified as a military supplied security measurement company"). Remove any remaining reference that isn't what en:Wikipedia regards as a reliable source. Make sure that all the content does have a reference to what en:Wikipedia regards as a reliable source, and that the draft has references to sources that discuss the company in depth. When you've done that, submit the draft. -- Hoary (talk) 02:04, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I clicked on the reference "Andamiro Ships New Arcade Games Inspired By Nickelodeons Paw Patrol And SpongeBob". In this web page, vendingtimes.com seems to be doing no more than recycle the company's PR talk. This isn't surprising, as the website is part of "Networld", which "encourages readers and industry executives to contribute columns, commentaries and blogs". -- Hoary (talk) 06:40, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Ah, i was unfortunately unaware of this.
    Thank you for bringing this to my attention, i'll remove the reference immediately. HyperNover (talk) 06:41, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    That was the main source i was a bit iffy on anyways, thanks! HyperNover (talk) 06:43, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Hello, HyperNover, and welcome to the Teahouse.
    My (personal) quick guide to successfully creating an article:
    1. Find at least three reliable independent sources with significant coverage of the subject. Critically evaluate each one against all three of the criteria in WP:42.
    2. If you have found at least three (and not otherwise), forget everything that you know about the subject, and write a draft summarising what those sources say and nothing else. There's room for some editorial discretion here as to what is appropriate, but make sure you don't leave out something just because you disagree with it.
    3. Submit your draft for review.
    ColinFine (talk) 09:23, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    "Suggested Edits" question

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    In regards to the selection of edits, should I try to stick towards topics i know about? or should I just help where I can with as many articles as i can HyperNover (talk) 06:49, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    You can do either, as you prefer. ("Knowing about topics" isn't as helpful as "knowing how to find reliable sources about topics".) Maproom (talk) 10:50, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    HyperNover, Monoid ring is an example of an article that's on a topic that I don't understand and that I therefore avoid. In the state it was in when I first encountered it, Kościuszko at Racławice was an example of a draft (now article) on a topic of which I have close to zero knowledge but of which I think I have a degree of understanding that can help. Piotrus has a far better understanding of it than I do, but I think (and hope) that I too contributed to improving it. I suggest getting stuck in to one article at a time, each in a topic area that you understand; and always, as Maproom suggests, depending on reliable sources for any additions. -- Hoary (talk) 22:20, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Articles

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    i really want to write articles in wikipedia.But i dont know what topic is suitable.What should i do? Thank you. Junurita (talk) 09:52, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    @Junurita a suggestion I give to new editors is to start out with simpler tasks, such as the ones listed at Wikipedia:Task Center. Writing a good quality article is no easy task. If you still want to do it, I would pick a topic in which you are familiar and for which you have access to sources. Broc (talk) 10:56, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Carrying on from this, you can find WikiProjects in the directory that may align with your interests, with most of the active ones having a list of stub and start class articles tied to them. This is an easy way to find articles for you to improve within your area of interest. CommissarDoggoTalk? 11:10, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Junurita I notice from your Userpage that you seem to be interested in chemistry. We have an active group of editors for that topic, which you can join. See WP:CHEM and its linked pages. Mike Turnbull (talk) 11:58, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Junurita You may find something that interests you at WP:Requested articles. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 16:49, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you very much Junurita (talk) 10:19, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Additional help with a new wiki entry

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    Hello,

    We are creating new wiki entries for several Canadian artist with the aim of bringing visibility and recognition to artists who, for some strange reason, do not have a wiki.

    Draft:Victor Arroyo

    it has been stated that this wiki entry needs more reliable secondary sources, and also, that the subject is not meritory enough.

    1 - Which sources have been deemed unreliable?

    2 - He is one of the most notable video artists today in Canada. Why is he not considered notable?

    Any feedback would be very much appreciated. Thank you! Aguilaosol (talk) 14:59, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Draft:Victor Arroyo Declined four times so far, all for not adequate references. IMDb is not considered a valid ref. Refs that he has lectured at several institutes of higher learning do not contribute to establishing notability. Also, each Wikipedia account must be for one person only, so no "we" allowed for actual editing. David notMD (talk) 15:49, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you very much for the feedback!
    Arroyo is notorious, as stated in several secondary sources. Being exhibited at the CCA (twice) and other museums, art galleries, and film festivals is not a small feat.
    - In this particular case (visual artist and filmmaker) IMDB is a necessary source. Would you recommend then, removing altogether IMDB as a source?
    - Would MUBI be considered a reliable secondary source?
    https://mubi.com/en/cast/victor-arroyo
    - To your knowledge, is there a dispute process for declined wiki entries?
    - Is there a process for requesting a different reviewer, probably, specialized in fine arts?
    Much appreciated. Aguilaosol (talk) 16:12, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Hi @Aguilaosol: your sources are almost entirely primary, and therefore cannot establish notability according to our general notability guideline WP:GNG. Unless you can find multiple sources which meet that standard, your only other option is to show that this person satisfies our special notability guideline for artists, WP:ARTIST. In so doing, you must produce evidence that clearly proves they objectively meet at least one of the four criteria in that guideline.
    And no, there is no process for requesting a different reviewer, as such; in any case, two separate reviewers have already declined this draft for the same reason. Also, a reviewer does not need to be a subject-matter expert in order to assess whether a draft meets our guidelines and policies; as reviewers, we don't judge whether the subject "deserves" to have an article, but whether the draft satisfies our core requirements for publication. HTH, -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 16:32, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you very much for the feedback! I have taken all comments into consideration. Aguilaosol (talk) 22:51, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Aguilaosol, what we're looking for are secondary, independent sources on the artist or their work. This is a good one - you want more like that.
    When you submit your drafts, make sure to tag them for WP:CANADA on the talk page. This will increase the likelihood that you get a reviewer who knows what you're talking about, and also will probably increase the likelihood you'll get someone who won't skip the draft because it has French-language sources. (Reviewers can review from the pile in any order, and most tend to stick to areas of interest/competence.) -- asilvering (talk) 16:59, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you very much for the feedback! I have taken all comments into consideration. Aguilaosol (talk) 22:51, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Hello, Aguilaosol . Please note that "with the aim of bringing visibility and recognition to artists" is called promotion, and is forbidden anywhere on Wikipedia. ColinFine (talk) 18:30, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Non-major awards do not contribute to notability. David notMD (talk) 18:41, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Where do I report vandalism?

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    The Wikipedia article titled "2023 Hamas-led attack on Israel" has a section in it that I believe to be vandalism. It reads:

    "This article is about 2023 attacks on Israel from Gaza. For American attack on Afghanistan in 2001, see United States invasion of Afghanistan. For the war initiated by the attack, see Israel–Hamas war."

    The bolded sentence is obviously not something that could be confused with the article's subject. Where can I report this to someone with WP:XC edit permissions? JohnR1Roberts (talk) 16:19, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    @JohnR1Roberts Well, you found one. I'm not sure I'd call it WP:VANDALISM at this point (vandalism has a specific meaning around here), but it certainly looked odd. I removed it[1], we'll see what happens. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 16:39, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    On your general question, vandalism can be reported on WP:AIV, though in your place I would have gone to Wikipedia:Requests for page protection/Edit in this particular case. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 16:46, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @JohnR1Roberts: It wasn't vandalism. The article was called "7 October attacks" when it was added. The United States invasion of Afghanistan started 7 October 2001. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:51, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Ah, and 7 October attacks is still a redirect. So maybe that text should stay after all. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 16:55, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Want to make it into a disambiguation page? DS (talk) 21:49, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Are there more than two 7 October attacks? WP:ONEOTHER. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 05:21, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Sources That Are Not Biased.

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    When I am using sources to cite my claims. What sources I should avoid making it not bias and what sources is okay. 

    Example is like I am planning on adding healthcare system on Maxine Waters' article on stating that she supports Medicare for all. 

    Any recommendation when sourcing?  174.135.36.220 (talk) 17:34, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    WP:BIASED sources are allowed, they have to be use with care, e.g. WP:ATTRIBUTEPOV. tgeorgescu (talk) 17:37, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks!

    Is this a good source? (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/8/14/1688194/-Maxine-Waters-Bobby-Scott-Elijah-Cummings-Barbara-Lee-and-Jim-Clyburn-support-Medicare-for-All)

    174.135.36.220 (talk) 17:38, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    No, this handy plugin states that that's a "Generally unreliable source", which means it's on WP:RSP. The listing there states There is consensus that Daily Kos should generally be avoided as a source, especially for controversial political topics where better sources are available. As an activism blog that publishes user-generated content with a progressive point of view, many editors consider Daily Kos to inappropriately blur news reporting and opinion. CommissarDoggoTalk? 17:45, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Is Vox a good source? 
    I know that I should be reading from this website. Media Bias/Fact Check - Search and Learn the Bias of News Media (mediabiasfactcheck.com) I will try to use mostly factual and up rating, and least biased, 174.135.36.220 (talk) 17:52, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I can't speak for Vox in regards to whether it's good or not because I haven't really been near it, but WP:RSPVOX exists. CommissarDoggoTalk? 17:59, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I read it. it said that:
    Vox (Recode) Generally reliable
    "Vox is considered generally reliable. Some editors say that Vox does not always delineate reporting and opinion content or that it is a partisan source in the field of politics. See also: Polygon, The Verge, New York" 174.135.36.220 (talk) 18:21, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Yep. So here is where you have to use your judgement. Other people's judgement may differ from yours, then you can talk about it. However, context matters. What from Vox do you want to use as a cite for what content on WP? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 18:54, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    For me. I was planning on adding healthcare system on Maxine Waters' article on stating that she supports Medicare for all. 174.135.36.220 (talk) 19:21, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    And where does Vox state that she supports Medicare for all? Fwiw, according to her WP-article, she is a member of the Medicare for All Caucus, which may imply something. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 20:10, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    That is what I was searching for! I was looking for source that say she support medicare for all beside being caucus member. 174.135.36.220 (talk) 20:45, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Golf Car Beverage Unit

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    Now daily used at golf courses and resorts worldwide, this is the documented history and introduction of the first Golf Car Beverage Unit. Bobbrewer1000 (talk) 17:47, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    This is Wikipedia, the free encylopedia, did you have a question about editing Wikipedia? -- D'n'B-t -- 18:10, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    If you would like to write about the "Golf Car Beverage Unit", you would benefit from using references other people have wrote to support your writing. Wikipedia:Your first article is a place to start. Otherwise, your user pages will continue to be deleted. Reconrabbit 18:25, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    WRONG PLACE. You User page is not the place to create drafts, hewnce Speedy deleted. Per above comment, use WP:YFA to create a well-referenced draft. David notMD (talk) 18:37, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Hello, Bobbrewer1000.
    My earnest advice to new editors is to not even think about trying to create an article until you have spent several weeks - at least - learning about how Wikipedia works by making improvements to existing articles. Once you have understood core policies such as verifiability, neutral point of view, reliable, independent sources, and notability, and experienced how we handle disagreements with other editors (the Bold, Revert, Discuss cycle), then you might be ready to read your first article carefully, and try creating a draft. ColinFine (talk) 21:24, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    RfA

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    I had earlier asked how to submit an RfA application, but it was never answered properly.

    Frozen902 (talk) 19:47, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

      Courtesy link: Wikipedia:Teahouse/Questions/Archive 1229 § Admin For what I assume they're mentioning. CommissarDoggoTalk? 19:58, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Yes, an editor there suggested WP:RFA, which links to WP:RFA/N. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 20:03, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Frozen902 as fellow editors mentioned in the previous thread, you don't fulfill the minimum requirement for participation in an RfA, which is to have an extended confirmed account, that means 500 edits and 30 days of activity. If you want to be an admin as you state in your profile, I suggest you start working on Wikipedia as an editor, find areas in which you enjoy contributing, and learn the various policies and mechanisms. Broc (talk) 06:50, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Is there something that you want to do, that you're thinking requires admin tools? -- D'n'B-t -- 07:50, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Adding "not to be confused with"

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    Henri Mercier and Edouard Mercier are easily confused, because Henri's first name is Edouard; he is known by his middle name, Henri. I could not meet the challenge of inserting "not to be confused with" at the top of each article. Is another editor up to it? Thanks. Maurice Magnus (talk) 23:41, 23 July 2024 (UTC) P.S. Edouard Joseph Mercier has an accent over the "E" in the Wikipedia article, but not in the title of the article. Edouard Henri Mercier does not have an accent over the "E" in his article, and the title of the article does not use "Edouard." I don't know in which cases an accent is appropriate.Maurice Magnus (talk) 23:47, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Hi, @Maurice Magnus:. To add "Not to be confused with," you can use the distinguish template. For example, you can insert the text {{distinguish|Henri Mercier}} on Edouard Mercier's Page and insert {{distinguish|Edouard Mercier}} on Henri Mercier's page. Hope this helps. Meltdown reverter (mail) 23:57, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Well, that was easy. Thank you. Maurice Magnus (talk) 00:11, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Question

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    I had my first submission declined due to not being supported by reliable sources. See article attached Draft:Alina Stanila I have edited the article since it's been rejected. I would very much like to get someone to proofread/guide/help with this article. Thank you very much Artyschool (talk) 00:32, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    @Artyschool, we need at minimum three instances of significant coverageinreliable sources that are independent of the article subject. Can you tell us which three (and only three, please) are the best sources you're providing that fulfill these minimum requirements? Valereee (talk) 01:28, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Valereee thank you very much for your reply - would you be able to let me know if recognition from MP , newspaper and award certificate are considered as being reliable sources, also in which format should I upload this? should this sources be aded as jpg attach, pdf, or link? Thank you very much for your help. Artyschool (talk) 16:47, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Depending on the newspaper and the length of the story, maybe. You can read more about what are and aren't reliable sources at WP:RELIABLE. Recognition from a member of parliament, generally not. Awards such as an Oscar or a Pulitzer or a Nobel, certainly; if the award doesn't have a Wikipedia article, highly unlikely to help support a claim to notability. Sources should be added as citations, which you can read about at WP:CITE. Valereee (talk) 18:58, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Hi @Valereee , again thank you very much for your replay. I had a read through the links shared and looked up the award and the newspaper on Wikipedia and found that both the award, the person who awards the award, the newspaper and the MP who represents the Minister for Culture, Communication and the Creative Industry have Wikipedia pages. See ref. ;
    World of Wearable Art - World of Wearable Art - here it is noted that World of Wearable Art is a competition; " The competition features wearable art entries, which are judged on durability, the safety and comfort of the models, and the impact of the design on the stage". The living person who awards the award too has a Wikipedia Page Suzie Moncrieff .
    Oxford Mail - Oxford Mail - this newspaper was first founded in 1928; the article was featured both digitally and in print on the 6 June 2014. The day on which the article was released coincided with the commemoration of 70 years since the D-Day.
    Minister for Culture, Communication and the Creative Industry - Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Arts and Heritage#:~:text=Ed Vaizey was appointed by,and the Department for Business, and Ed Vaizey ; To literate, the recognition received is from an MP who represents the Minister for Culture, Communication and the Creative Industry.
    On the advice given by @David notMD I have stared the article from scratch. I have cut out any phrases that may sound laudatory or promotional and give a neutral point of view on the article. Would you be able to help with readproof and advice on the notable resources provided?
    Thank you very much for your help Artyschool (talk) 20:55, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Artyschool, the photo of the model staring at the ground also appears here. You're quite sure that it was you who took the photo? -- Hoary (talk) 06:26, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    The draft was Declined (not Rejected, which is more severe), but subsequently Speedy deleted by an Administrator, so it and its history of edits can no longer be viewed by a non-Admin. You have the option of starting over, but content needs to be neutral point of view facts, not laudatory. And refs need to meet the standards mentionned above. David notMD (talk) 10:49, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I do not yet see a new draft. It matters not that the person who awards the reward, the newspaper that announced the award, nor the MP have Wikipedia pages, only the award itself. David notMD (talk) 21:33, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Hi @David notMD , Thank you very much for your reply. Here is the Draft https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Artyschool/sandbox&action=submit . Artyschool (talk) 22:15, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Artyschool, I'm still not finding your draft. From your previous draft, it looks like she was runner-up for the "first-time entrant" category of this not-very-notable award? It's highly unlikely that would make her notable. What we really need are three instances of significant coverageinreliable sources that are independent of the subject. All of those are clickable links. Valereee (talk) 22:52, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    So, Artyschool, is this photograph really your own work? (Did you take the photograph, whether in 2014 or 2024?) -- Hoary (talk) 01:59, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Hoary I am not sure I understand your question? The photograph represents the designers in question work - garment / the photo which you have find on njal represent a garment which was made by the designer , if the photo has been taken either by the person in question or by photographer with agreed w full comerciale reales of the photo back to the designer and or free used for adv. etc. I am not sure what are you trying to dig? I am really sorry but I do find everything on here being passively sceptical about absolutely everything. Rest assured that I am not in the game for fame without work! Hope I have answers your question. Best Artyschool (talk) 02:23, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Artyschool, the question is very simple: Was it you who took the photograph? (I'm not sure what you mean by "passively sceptical", but yes, I'm sceptical about many matters, and one of them is the copyright status of this photograph.) -- Hoary (talk) 02:41, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Hoary copyright status! Is that photo not illustrating the designer garment! Honestly please go ahead and presume whatever. Artyschool (talk) 03:04, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I think there may be some confusion. You have uploaded the image to Commons, which is only allowed if: a) you are its copyright holder or b) the image is under a free license or is public domain. The image will be deleted per the deletion policy if it is neither. Also read assume good faith; nobody is being passively sceptical about absolutely everything. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talkcontribs) 03:33, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Artyschool, I don't know why you asked me, but you did ask me, so: Yes, this photograph illustrates a designer garment. (Had I suggested otherwise?) Was it you who took the photograph? -- Hoary (talk) 04:11, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Artyschool, Wikipedia and Wikimedia Commons have very strict policy about not violating copyright. The person who took the photo (or the person who commissioned them to take it) owns that photo, and it is their property. No one can use it without their permission, and in order to upload it to Wikimedia Commons, they have to give up almost all rights to it -- that means anyone in the world is free to use it however they want -- which means the photo would be less valuable to its owner. So when we see professional-quality photos, we try to make sure the person who uploaded it (and gave up those rights) actually does own the photo. Valereee (talk) 10:25, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Now at User:Artyschool/sandbox with no references yet and a different image claimed by Artyschool as "own work" from 2017. David notMD (talk) 16:09, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    List of Helena Bonham Carter performances

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    In the table of film roles in List of Helena Bonham Carter performances, there is an errant column in the far right of the table. I can't figure out how to remove it. Could someone here take a look? 76.14.122.5 (talk) 03:28, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

      Fixed! 🛧Midori No Sora♪🛪 ( ☁=☁=✈) 04:19, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you 76.14.122.5 (talk) 17:23, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    I need information on how to reference correctly please

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    I need information on how to reference correctly please Kanubu33 (talk) 12:19, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Welcome to Wikipedia! The project page Wikipedia:Citing sources is a good overview of how to provide references for articles. Perception312 (talk) 12:48, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Kanubu33 There is a more beginner-oriented Help page at WP:REFB. Mike Turnbull (talk) 13:44, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Review Africa Social Impact Summit

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    Hi, I am new to Wikipedia. The page Africa Social Impact Summit is yet to reviewed; it was created about 9 weeks ago. Please can it be reviewed, it is taking so long? thanks. Nnamdi93 (talk) 12:29, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    @Nnamdi93 You either created the article in mainspace or you moved it from draft straight to mainspace, either way it doesn't seem to have gone through the articles for creation process.
    If you create a page in mainspace then one of two things will happen before it can be shown on search engines; either a new page patroller comes along and decides whether it's ok or not, or 90 days passes, after which it's automatically shown on search engines.
    Although both new page patrol and articles for creation are both formal reviews, if you want to have the page be reviewed through articles for creation (which is the normal process for newer editors), I will happily move it to a draft so it can go through the articles for creation process, however do note that that process can take up to 3 months due to how backlogged they are. CommissarDoggoTalk? 12:48, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you @CommissarDoggo, the article has already spent about 50 days unreviewed. I will however see that it be moved back to draft to unable you work on it. Thank you. Nnamdi93 (talk) 13:21, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Nnamdi93 The page has now been moved to Draft:Africa Social Impact Summit, you can submit it whenever you feel that it's ready, just remember that if the person reviewing the page believes that it's not ready you will have to follow their recommendations before you submit again. CommissarDoggoTalk? 13:36, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Alright, thanks Nnamdi93 (talk) 14:01, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    It is now submitted. Thank you. Nnamdi93 (talk) 14:04, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Nnamdi93 Welcome to Teahouse! Africa Social Impact Summit is already published. It is still awaiting a review, which is more an additional quality assurance. I notice a heavy reliance on WP:PRIMARY sources, and fewer secondary sources. Some citations link to empty websites, for example msn.com. You are encouraged to continue making quality improvements to the article in the meantime. Happy editing! ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 12:58, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you @Shushugah, I appreciate your encouragement. Nnamdi93 (talk) 13:22, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Hello, Nnamdi93. The draft reads very much as what ASIS wants people to know about itself, with a fair bit of meaningless PR-speak. Wikipedia has little interest in what the subject of an article says or wants to say about themselves, or what their associates say about them. Wikipedia is almost entirely interested in what people who have no connection with the subject, and who have not been prompted or fed information on behalf of the subject, have chosen to publish about the subject in reliable sources. If enough material is cited from independent sources to establish notability, a limited amount of uncontroversial factual information may be added from non-independent sources. ColinFine (talk) 14:21, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you so much. I am making improvement on how to edit on wikipedia. Nnamdi93 (talk) 14:55, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Current status is Draft:Africa Social Impact Summit. David notMD (talk) 21:36, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Draft: Jeff Klinger

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    Hi. Ive gotten feed back that every asserted fact needs a source. Some info like his date of birth and things he did during his early career are going to be difficult to substantiate. Also his television work is all on imdb which is not a reference. I feel the article is merited because he was a key player in the development of one of the most important incubators for comics during the mid 2000s, and at one point had a wikipedia page that was lost due to expired links. Can I get someone to review more specifically and help me pinpoint the troubling errors with what needs a reference. Also just a general opinion on whether or not being cited as an important part of that Comedy movement in two sources is enough to be considered worthy of notoriety. MickeyGray85 (talk) 15:43, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

      Courtesy link: Draft:Jeff Klinger
    Hi @MickeyGray85: can I ask, if you cannot find a source to substantiate this person's DOB, how do you know it yourself? What we're asking for is that you tell us where you got the information from, by citing your sources. If those sources are reliable, great. If not, then a better source needs to be found, and if that's not possible, then the information in question needs to be removed.
    Also noting that this draft currently cites two sources, both against the same statement, with the vast majority of the information unreferenced. So my example of the DOB is really only that; an example. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 16:05, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I was wondering if you think without that first summary paragraph. Ie with just the television work available on imdb and then the summary of the events at the Lyons den do I need to reference the television work again? MickeyGray85 (talk) 20:29, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Just to add that the DOB should not be included unless it is widely publicized, as that raises a WP:BLPPRIVACY issue. Shantavira|feed me 16:40, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    he has a website that has his personal biography on it. i dont mind truncating that first paragraph almost entirely its basically summerizing the biography on his website, but we cant reference that. Basically the fact that he was referenced almost 12 years after the fact as being a key player at the lyons den is the entire i guess "arguement" im making that he is a notable person, considering he at one point had a wikipedia page. so I'm happy to remove all the personal stuff and keep it related to that. MickeyGray85 (talk) 20:36, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    unbelievably complex and multi-layered rcat question

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    do redirects to and from different types of numerals (like doom 2 for doom ii) get the r from alternative spelling template, or was it something else i might have missed? cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 16:02, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    @Cogsan. I'm not sure what you mean by "get the r", but as far as I am aware, all redirects are manually created and no templates are involved. Does that answner your question? Shantavira|feed me 16:28, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Shantavira: I believe Cogsan is asking if redirecting Doom 2toDoom II would warrant using the {{r from alternative spelling}} template. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 16:45, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    correct!! see for example "morshu", which has some redirect templates. i just haven't found a properly categorized redirect from alternative numerals to confirm what should be used, and there's no "r from alternative numeral" template cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 16:58, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Cogsan: think you're looking for {{R to Roman numerals}} and {{R from Roman numerals}}. Elli (talk | contribs) 17:01, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    that's the ticket
    thanks cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 17:04, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    How do you correct a mistake on Wikipedia?

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    On the Mathew Grimson page it describes "Question Everything Records" as being Curphey Forrestall's record label. I release material on this label as well but it is Greg Kendrick's label. I am Curphey Forrestall I should know. Greg Kendrick was in ther band Skinned Roadie with Mathew. Matthew_Grimson - Curphey Curphey (talk) 18:57, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    It doesn't look like the sentence in question has a reference to anything so it can probably be deleted. If you have an article or some other source that details the 2024 release and/or the ownership of the record label, that would be great - I can't find anything, which is exacerbated by a very similar record label owned by members of Brockhampton. Reconrabbit 19:06, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    "Error: unknown archive URL"

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    Hello, I just added a lot of sections to the article "Line drawing algorithm", which I translated from the german version. A couple of the references (which I also took directly from the german article while only fixing the formatting of the dates) have "Error: unknown archive URL" displayed behind them. I couldn't quite figure out how to fix this, is this an issue and if yes does anybody know how to fix it? Yoneda-Emma (talk) 19:18, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    @Yoneda-Emma: From what I can tell, {{webarchive}} does not have a "webarchive" parameter. The German version of the template does, if that's where you copied it from. See {{webarchive}} got how to use the template here. RudolfRed (talk) 19:25, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Subtitle edit

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    Hi, is there a way I may edit the subtitles of an audio file (.ogg)? I was reading one and saw an error I desire to correct. Thank you! ButterCashier (talk) 19:21, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    HiButterCashier. See commons:Commons:Timed Text for general help. Please link the file to get more specific help like a link to where you can edit the subtitles. It's always best to be specific when you ask for help. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:21, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Finding that mentor link?

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    On my first pass through my user page, there was a mentor link (something like ganesha8 or 881???) -- but now I can't find that link again.

    Are there ways of searching for user pages?

    -m Condonfnm (talk) 21:16, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    @Condonfnm: Welcome to Wikipedia! If you visit your Homepage, there should be a sidebar on the right that displays your mentor (if you were assigned one). C F A 💬 21:19, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Condonfnm: Perhaps User:Ganesha811?Deor (talk) 22:59, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    edits rejected

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    My edits on a known abusive man, evidenced in a national report, continue to be deleted. I want to know why. 2407:7000:9B01:BF00:3DF6:9187:DA2:EFFA (talk) 02:39, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Please see the message that was left on your talk page about why User:Grabup reverted your edit (I did not linked his username as it will ping the user and they will get a notification). If you have questions about it, respond back to this user on your talk page by pressing the "Reply" button. Soafy234 (talk) 02:43, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Soafy234, try Template:Noping. -- Hoary (talk) 02:55, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you for drawing my attention to the article John da Silva, which, in view of the number of more or less dodgy edits recently made to it, I have just now semi-protected. (Incidentally, I sleepily cited the wrong reason for doing so. This is not a living person; it's a matter of poorly sourced additions.) You are welcome to use Talk:John da Silva to ask for specific improvements to be made to the article. -- Hoary (talk) 02:55, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I also thought it was a BLP. The IP was adding unsourced strong allegations against the person, which is why I instantly removed it. Even if it is not a BLP, adding unsourced allegations like this is not acceptable. GrabUp - Talk 03:03, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    The edit was not unsourced; it included the text "as evidenced in the Royal Commission into the Abuse in Care report". Note that the article already included The [[Royal Commission of Inquiry into Abuse in Care]] reported in 2024 that "young people's lives were ruined from the abuse they suffered" at Whakapakari.<ref>{{Cite web|url=https://www.abuseincare.org.nz/reports/whanaketia/case-studies/case-study-whakapakari/executive-summary/|title=Boot Camp: Te Whakapakari Youth Programme A case study of State-funded violence and abuse of children and young people needing care and protection—Executive summary|publisher=Abuse in Care - Royal Commission of Inquiry|access-date=25 July 2024}}</ref> Survivors reported physical and sexual abuse from supervisors and da Silva.<ref>{{Cite web|url=https://www.abuseincare.org.nz/reports/whanaketia/case-studies/case-study-whakapakari/chapter-3/|title=Chapter 3: Nature and extent of abuse and neglect at Whakapakari|publisher=Abuse in Care - Royal Commission of Inquiry|access-date=25 July 2024}}</ref> Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:27, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Population density values in Wikipedia articles are very often wrong

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    I've observed this in many articles over the years. I can understand that population varies over time, but to be honest, sometimes I don't understand where they get the values, because they are often way off. I think the solution to this is to modify the Geography template we currently use to one that just divides the population into the area.

    I'll give you one example of what I'm talking about. Let's look at this article: Morocco. In the template it says that the population density is 50. But if you divide the 2022 population into the area, you get 85. It's way off. Where did they get the 50 value? 12qwas (talk) 06:31, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    @12qwas If you don't get a good reply here, for the general question, you could try Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Countries. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:37, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Looks like old vandalism that has not been noticed: diff, a change in 2018 from 79 to 50. Thank you for reporting this. MKFI (talk) 08:53, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    It wasn't vandalism. It's about how to treat the disputed territory Western Sahara. The infobox showed two areas at the time but only one population and density. Somebody changed the density to match the other area. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:42, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Account creation question

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    There seems to be some code/bot that is creating accounts at assorted wikis (multiple languages) by copying from meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:... I came across this as someone thought I had just joined the swwiki and sent me a welcome message. It is continuing, and via my global account info I was added to sw.wikipedia.org on July 23 and ka.wikipedia.org on July 25. Does anyone know what is going on here?

    N.B., this may not be the best place for this question, I am just starting here -- suggestions for better locations would be useful.

    N.N.B., at least at swwiki this was news to a beaurocrat so is maybe some global bot action. Ldm1954 (talk) 09:29, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    @Ldm1954 AFAIK, local accounts for each project are created automatically when you first log on to that wiki. Some wikis, such as swwiki, have set up auto-welcoming systems. There isn't really a way to delete your local accounts or opt-out of the welcomes. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talkcontribs) 09:36, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @CanonNi, I was not clear enough. I did not sign into or log into either swwiki or kawiki. These (and many others) user accounts were created without asking me. By searching the global creation logs and selected pages it is clear that the information was copied from metawiki.
    As an illustration, did you create an account at zh.wikisource.org on July 17 as well as the many others, see your global accounts. Perhaps you did;
    my global has many I did not create.
    N.B., I only found out because a newish user was doing swwiki welcomes to what he thought were newly registered users, but are buggy bot creations. Ldm1954 (talk) 09:54, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Ldm1954: If you are logged in at any Wikipedia language or other Wikimedia wiki when you view a page at another wiki then your account is automatically created there if it doesn't already exist (unless something prevents the login from being detected). If a wiki imports a page with page history from another wiki where you edited the page then your account can also be created even if you have never visited the wiki. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:06, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I did not view any pages in other languages on those days. The wikis are randomly importing pages. Ldm1954 (talk) 12:05, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Ldm1954: You may have clicked something and forgotten it. Your swwiki account was created 12 minutes before you added a file to an article.[2] The file page File:Battery Demonstration Unit - DPLA - d7a2b9c6b8649718195480084ed63d41 (page 2).jpg#globalusage has a single link to sw:Alan MacDiarmid. I guess you checked it out. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:28, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I did, but IMHO that should not have automatically created an account for me, I think that is a bug. Anyone, now I know what is going on so I will move on to my never shrinking "To Do" list. Ldm1954 (talk) 12:39, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Ldm1954: I think it's a nice feature that you automatically remain logged in when you visit another Wikimedia wiki. It for example means that your IP address isn't revealed if you make an edit, your Special:GlobalPreferences are applied, and you can get notifications from other wikis. But welcome messages to your local talk page can be annoying. I have a proposal at meta:Welcoming policy to disallow it for users with no edits. If a system could be made where you could remain logged in without creating the local account unless you edit or log in with your password then that might have merit too. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:58, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    I want to create a wikipedia page for someone else, whom I admire. Can I do that?

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    I want to create a wikipedia page for someone else, whom I admire. Can I do that? Gaurav Kishore Rungta (talk) 09:29, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Gaurav Kishore Rungta, "admire" is a very vague word with a very broad meaning. If you simply read about a notable person, found them impressive with no further connection, and want to write a Wikipedia biography about them, then no problem. On the other hand, if you have a close personal connection with the person, such as being a relative, a close friend, a colleague or joint members of the same organization, then you have a conflict of interest which you need to declare openly You should then use the Articles for Creation process where volunteer editors without a conflict of interest will evaluate your draft article. Cullen328 (talk) 09:54, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Gaurav Kishore Rungta: The person has to satisfy one of our notability guidelines, typically Wikipedia:Notability (people) but you didn't identify them. The article has to include sources to demonstrate notability. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:57, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    It appears you created content on your User page, which was Speedy deleted. See WP:UP for User page and WP:YFA for how to create and submit a draft. David notMD (talk) 12:56, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Hello, Gaurav Kishore Rungta, and welcome to the Teahouse and to Wikipedia.
    It's great that you want to contribute, but I would advise you to go slow. My earnest advice to new editors is to not even think about trying to create an article until you have spent several weeks - at least - learning about how Wikipedia works by making improvements to existing articles. Once you have understood core policies such as verifiability, neutral point of view, reliable, independent sources, and notability, and experienced how we handle disagreements with other editors (the Bold, Revert, Discuss cycle), then you might be ready to read your first article carefully, and try creating a draft.
    Remember that writing a new article is not the only way that you make powerful contributions to Wikipedia! ColinFine (talk) 14:31, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Citing theorems in math books

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    Hi, relatively new Wikipedia editor here. I've created a page yesterday for Sierpiński's theorem on metric spaces. In the citations, I'd like to give pointers like "Theorem 1.9.6" or "Exercise 7.12" in addition to page numbers (this is often easier to use when reading the book as PDF, since PDF readers can jump to the n-th page of the PDF file, but often cannot jump to the n-th page in the book's own numbering, in the absence of metadata). What's the preferred way to do this? I didn't find a suitable parameter for it in templates like Template:Cite book. Thanks! Jean Abou Samra (talk) 11:51, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    HiJean Abou Samra, welcome to the Teahouse. You can use |at= instead of (not in addition to) a page parameter. See Template:Cite book#In-source locations. Both a theorem number and a page number could be specified, e.g. |at=Theorem 1.9.6, p. 40, but I don't know the practice. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:03, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks! Sorry for missing that param on the Template:Cite book page (for my defense, there are so many parameters…). Jean Abou Samra (talk) 12:38, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Jean Abou Samra Another possibility is to provide a Google Books link as the |url= parameter in the cite and then arrange things so this points to the section (or keywords etc.) of the book you want to highlight. Whether this works depends on Google allowing "search inside" but is often successful. Mike Turnbull (talk) 13:31, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Anti-Vandalism

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    Hey! I recently went onto the task-center page, and I found out I can do anti-vandalism. Is there any way I could join the CVU? WhoIsBean (talk) 13:17, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    @WhoIsBean Almost all long-term editors here will notice vandalism and revert it. Those who join the WP:CVU are volunteers like the rest of us but want to highlight that more of their time will be spent on that task than alternative ways to use their time here. Note that we have a special definition of what we mean by WP:Vandalism, so reading that page should be your first step. Mike Turnbull (talk) 13:25, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks! WhoIsBean (talk) 13:28, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    How to receive feedback on Talk Pages

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    Hello! I have submitted a few comments on the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Up_TV talk page. I have not made direct edits to the article due to COI (noted on talk page). It has been a few days. Is it likely someone will reply, or will my comments go stale? Austinchrps (talk) 14:23, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    I've added the appropriate template to your first request. An editor will eventually review it. Your second request is blatant advertising and I declined it. C F A 💬 14:40, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Hi CFA - thank you for your help, it is much appreciated. Austinchrps (talk) 15:23, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Hello, Austinchrps. Thank you for being open about your status as a paid editor.
    Generally, it is best to use the edit request mechanism in cases like this, because the template will put the request in a list of requests waiting. That doesn't guarantee that it will happen quickly, but if you don't do so, then it's possible that your request might not get noticed.
    Notice also that page also advises you how to construct your request. Your second request is neither specific, nor supported by an adequate source.
    While I see that your first request is uncontroversial factual data and has already been actioned, your second appears to be pure promotion. Unless you can show (by citing it) that somebody wholly unconnected with Up TV has been sufficiently interested in its 20th anniversary by writing at some length about it (not merely noting it in passing), why on earth should an encyclopaedia be remotely interested? ColinFine (talk) 14:40, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I misread the first request - it hasn't been actioned and I have struck through my words above. --ColinFine (talk) 14:43, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Hi Colin - I appreciate your help and insights. Thank you! Austinchrps (talk) 15:23, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Relevancy of data

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    i am not having strong relivent source online but i have hard copy and books which is not more popular as it is in reginol language nagpuri so my draft is declined every time what should i do Nagpuri writers (talk) 14:38, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    @Nagpuri writers The issue with Draft:Shivawatar choudhary is not that it relies on WP:OFFLINE sources (which, as that link says are prefectly acceptable) but that you have not correctly cited those sources. Please read this help article carefully. Mike Turnbull (talk) 14:42, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    I read his words but don't understand them

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    to my Draft:Ben Bazyler. --Virtualiter (talk) 14:56, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    What part of "This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources. Reliable sources are required so that information can be verified. If you need help with referencing, please see Referencing for beginners and Citing sources." do you not understand? Your draft has paragraphs without references. Also, you copied content from ref #1, which is a copyright infringement. David notMD (talk) 15:16, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Hello, Virtualiter, and welcome to the Teahouse.
    Some of your sources may be acceptable, but it is hard to tell, because you have not formatted them with the important information (title, author, publisher, date) easily visible. Please read WP:REFB.
    Since the purpose of a citation is to provide verification for a piece of encyclopaedic information in an article, there is not usually any point in citing library catalogues. ColinFine (talk) 16:57, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    The article has 4+3 excellent citations. I have now formatted them - as best as I can - although Citation-Bot can probably do a much better job of this, as I have seen.
    I have shortened the first paragraph further. (ref #1)
    Can the quote about his early repertoire from an unpublished interview with M. Alpert from 1990 remain? I have no idea how to paraphrase this. --Virtualiter (talk) 17:56, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I have now pasted together paragraphs that apparently have no sources - although I would find it more pleasant if events in Tashkent, Lodz and LA were easier to distinguish. Is that better? --Virtualiter (talk) 18:16, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Slave ship Clotilda, disagreement on history

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    On July 6, 2024 the Wall Street Journal published an article online titled: "It was the last slave ship to reach the U.S. Or was it a Hoax?" Sub deck: ""The Clotilda wreck brought global attention to Mobile. But now there are questions"

    The story appeared July 13 in print as: "Ship Divides Historians." Sub deck: "The Clotilda wreck put Mobile, Ala, in headlines. But now there are questions."

    The current Clotilda site presents a history of that ship that several prominent historians have disagreed with. I want to make a few edits to flag the presence of this disagreement. I'm a former editor and foreign correspondent for the Wall Street Journal, and a former writer for Fortune Magazine. In 2007 St. Martins Press published my book: "The Wanderer: The Last American slave ship." It was updated in 2021. Ericorlando (talk) 15:09, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Relevant articles are Clotilda (slave ship) and Wanderer (slave ship). David notMD (talk) 15:30, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    The Talk page of Clotilda has a discussion about whether the Clotilda history is true or not, settled at that time as true. It appears that the WSJ story is (very) recent. Consider starting a discussion on the Talk page before editing the article itself. And maybe waiting to see what responses there are to the WSJ article. David notMD (talk) 15:46, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    The author of the book "The Wanderer: The Last American Slave Ship..." is Erik Calonius, as is the author of the WSJ article. You state that you are the author of the book. If you are also the author of the WSJ article disputing the Clotilda history, then you definitely have what Wikipedia describes as a conflict of interest (WP:COI). I now strongly recommend that you not edit the article directly, but instead propose, with independent references, changes to content to dispute the facts in the Clotilda article. Do not use as references your book or your WSJ article. David notMD (talk) 15:57, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks, David. The author of the WSJ story is Cameron McWhirter, a nation writer for the paper. He interviewed me for the piece. The Wanderer book is not connected to the Clotilda inquiry. I'm not making any money from Clotilda and have no products to sell. Ericorlando (talk) 19:27, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Hello, Ericorlando. Whether or not you are making any money is not the point. Wikipedia's policy on conflict of interest is intended to preserve the neutral point of view , which is a core policy. Citing your own work or you own research - or an interview with you - is something that a Wikipedia article might do, if it is published somewhere reliable; but you should not be the one to add the citation or the text which the citation supports. ColinFine (talk) 20:47, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Help please

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    I find that the Wikipedia content regarding the GOP-led Tax Cuts and Jobs Act of 2017 legislation is seriously inadequate and misleading. I've spent a mountain of time on the subject and I'm preparing some edits, and I hope to have a chart included in Wikipedia. I hope that somebody out there could help mentor me, I've never tried to edit anything in Wikipedia. BRUCE NORVELL Norvellb (talk) 21:43, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Hello, Norvellb. I have removed your personal contact information, which is not appropriate for Wikipedia. Cullen328 (talk) 22:11, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    The best place to discuss your concerns about the article is Talk:Tax Cuts and Jobs Act. Cullen328 (talk) 22:14, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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