Founded | 1904 |
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Abolished | 1932 |
Region | Low Countries (UEFA) |
Number of teams | 2 |
Last champions | Belgium (15th title) |
Most successful team(s) | Netherlands (16 titles) |
The Belgium vs Netherlands Cups were a series of international football friendly cup matches contested by the national teams of Belgium and the Netherlands. From their first unofficial friendly derbies in the early 1900s, until the mid-1920s, Belgium and the Netherlands competed for floating trophies. During the encounters in Belgium the teams played for the Coupe Vanden Abeele until 1925, while in the Netherlands they faced off for the Rotterdamsch Nieuwsblad Beker until 1923.[1] In total, there has been 39 Belgian-Dutch friendly cup duels, of which 35 were official internationals.[2]
The cup awarded in Belgium was named in honor of the donator of the trophy, Frédéric Vanden Abeele Sr., the father of the secretary of Beerschot Athletic Club (where the first tournament was held), in reaction to the successful staging of Brussels of the Coupe Van der Straeten Ponthoz one year earlier.[3] As the Dutch disliked the design of the Belgian trophy, they quickly nicknamed it Het Koperen Dingetje, meaning "The Copper Thingy".[4]
These Belgian-Dutch friendly cups are among the oldest international football cups along with the 1904 Évence Coppée Trophy.
After the huge success of the first edition of the Coupe Van der Straeten Ponthozin1900, the plans for another international club tournament began, and in February 1901, the『Comité voor den beker-Vanden Abeele』invited a Dutch eleven to travel to Antwerp to contest the Coupe Vanden Abeele (offered by Frédéric Vanden Abeele) against an All-Belgium side during the Easter holiday. However, the Easter weekend was already planned for the second edition of the Coupe Van der Straeten Ponthoz in Brussels, so the match had to be delayed by three weeks, and since many Dutch clubs had league commitments on the new date, the Dutch team fell apart and the match was thus almost canceled.[4] However, the Antwerp football director Frédéric Vanden Abeele personally hired Cees van Hasselt, a former Sparta player and a tailorinRotterdam who had traveled to Antwerp for this match, to quickly assemble a Dutch team to play the game.[5] The ones who took the initiative to play this match against Belgium were Van Hasselt and his friend Jirris,[6] the captain of Rotterdam club side Celeritas, a club from a third-level competition, and this squad was then strengthened by three players from another Rotterdam club, Olympia, which was also a third-level side.[4] Naturally, the hosts, whose team was announced as an All-Belgium XI and included four Englishmen resident in Belgium, had little trouble claiming the Coupe Vanden Abeele after an 8–0 victory, with the star of the match being the English man Herbert Potts, who netted 7 of the Belgian goals.[4] Although the dirigents of this cup only intended to create another international club tournament, they instead had just witnessed what is now considered the first-ever (unofficial) match between Belgium and the Netherlands, held on 28 April 1901 at the ground of Beerschot A.C. in front of just 300 people. This match took place a year earlier than the first official international match played in continental Europe between Austria and Hungary on 12 October 1902.[7]
The next three editions saw the Dutch represented by sides selected and organized by Cees van Hasselt. As a result of the games not being sanctioned by the Royal Dutch Football Association (KNVB), only players from the second division were available to Van Hasselt, so Belgium also won those three editions, although with more leveled scores (1–0, 2–1 and 6–4).[8] Neither team can be considered a full national team since the Netherlands was only represented by players from South Netherlands and also because the match was not yet played under the auspices of the KNVB, while the Belgium squad had the presence of English players in the "Belgian" squad such as center-forward Herbert Potts, who scored 12 of "Belgium's" 17 goals.[4] Likewise, in those games the Netherlands was announced under the name of "Van Hasselt XI", while the hosts were announced as an All-Belgian League XI.
In 1905 the Dutch football federation decided to take direct responsibility for the selection of the Dutch side, and so, on 30 April 1905, the Netherlands national team played their first official international game, beating Belgium 4–1 in Antwerp, courtesy of a four-goal haul from Eddy de Neve, thus winning the Coupe Vanden Abeele for the first time.[9] Belgium was the first ever opponent of the Netherlands, but the opposite can't be said as Belgium's official debut came on 1 May 1904 against FranceatÉvence Coppée Trophy.[10]
The earliest four games played by a national selection of players active in Belgium, with the Netherlands as opponent between 1901 and 1904, were not yet considered as official because of the presence of English players in the "Belgian" squad.[11][12]
Belgium | 8–0 | Netherlands B ("van Hasselt XI") |
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H. Potts ?', ?', ?', ?', ?', ?', ?' W. Potts ?' |
Report |
Attendance: 300
Referee: Charles Maggee
Belgium | 1–0 | Netherlands |
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W. Potts | Report |
Belgium | 2–1 | Netherlands |
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Blanchard 1–1' H. Potts 2–1' |
Report | Lotsy 0–1' |
Belgium had originally announced to field an exclusively Belgian squad, but eventually replaced Paul Chibert (injured) by Herbert Potts, who contributed decisively in Belgium's win, scoring four goals.
Belgium | 6–4 | Netherlands |
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H. Potts 1–0', 2–1', 4–2', 6–4' Feye 3–2', 5–4' |
Report | Bekker 1–1' Kamperdijk 2–2' Van den Berg 3–4' Wollenberg 4–4' |
Referee: Herbert Willing (Netherlands)
Belgium | 1–4 (a.e.t.) | Netherlands |
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Stom 86' (o.g.) | Report | de Neve 80', 106', 117', 119' |
Attendance: 800
Referee: Frank König (Belgium)
Belgium | 5–0 | Netherlands |
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Vanden Eynde 15' Goetinck 40' De Veen 52', 68', 80' |
Report |
Attendance: 2,000
Referee: Pat Harrower (England)
Belgium | 1–3 (a.e.t.) | Netherlands |
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Feye 13' | Report | Van Gogh 74', 118' Feith 99' |
Attendance: 2,500
Referee: Pat Harrower (England)
Belgium | 1–4 | Netherlands |
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Vertongen 81' | Report | Ruffelse 12' Thomée 50', 74' De Korver 85' |
Attendance: 2,000
Referee: Pat Harrower (England)
Belgium | 1–4 | Netherlands |
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Poelmans 63' | Report | Snethlage 11' Kessler 19' Welcker 38' Lutjens 79' |
Attendance: 6,000
Referee: Thomas Kyle (England)
Belgium | 3–2 (a.e.t.) | Netherlands |
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De Veen 19', 24' Six 119' |
Report | Lutjens 21' Kessler 26' |
Attendance: 8,500
Referee: James Schumacher (England)
Belgium | 1–5 | Netherlands |
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Paternoster 78' | Report | M. Francken 8', 36', 55' Thomée 83' Welcker 88' |
Attendance: 12,000
Referee: Thomas Campbell (England)
Belgium | 1–2 | Netherlands |
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Nisot 60' | Report | Thomée 58', 72' |
Attendance: 9,225
Referee: Charles Crisp (England)
Belgium | 3–3 | Netherlands |
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De Veen 17', 29' Nisot 30' |
Report | Bosschart 1' Haak 44' M. Francken 63' |
Attendance: 12,000
Referee: Frederick Kirkham (England)
Belgium | 2–4 | Netherlands |
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Brébart 18' (pen.) | Report | Kessler 32', 74' Westra 63' J. Francken 80' |
Attendance: 20,000
Referee: James Schumacher (England)
Belgium | 1–1 | Netherlands |
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Bragard 49' | Report | Kessler 60' |
Attendance: 30,000
Referee: Charles Barette (Belgium)
Belgium | 4–0 | Netherlands |
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Larnoe 14', 86' Vandevelde 37' Coppée 47' |
Report |
Attendance: 40,000
Referee: Claud Newman (England)
Belgium | 1–1 | Netherlands |
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Thys 78' | Report | Visser 74' |
Attendance: 30,000
Referee: Harry Kingscott (England)
Belgium | 0–1 | Netherlands |
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Report | van Baar van Slangenburgh 64' |
Attendance: 30,000
Referee: Harry Kingscott (England)
Team | Pld | W | D | L | GF | GA | Dif |
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Belgium | 14 | 3 | 3 | 8 | 25 | 34 | -9 |
Netherlands | 14 | 8 | 3 | 3 | 34 | 25 | +9 |
Rank | Name | Team | Goals | Tournament(s) |
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1 | Robert De Veen | Belgium | 7 | 1906 (3), 1910 (2) and 1913 (2) |
2 | Jan Thomée | Netherlands | 5 | 1908 (2), 1911 (1) and 1912 (2) |
Mannes Francken | 1911 (3) and 1913 (1) | |||
4 | Eddy de Neve | 4 | 1905 (4) | |
Dé Kessler | 1910 (1), 1914 (2) and 1921 (1) |
Netherlands | 4–0 | Belgium |
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Hesselink 74' de Neve 76' (pen.), 84' Lutjens 80' |
Report |
Attendance: 30,000
Referee: Henry Vermeulen (Netherlands)
Netherlands | 2–3 | Belgium |
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Muller 32' Van der Vinne 54' |
Report | Cambier 76', 88' Destrebecq 81' |
Attendance: 7,000
Referee: Frank König (Belgium)
Netherlands | 1–2 | Belgium |
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Feith 54' | Report | Feye 14' Goetinck 60' |
Attendance: 10,000
Referee: Ernest Holland (England)
Netherlands | 3–1 | Belgium |
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Snethlage 17' Thomée 31' (pen.), 60' (pen.) |
Report | Saeys 90' |
Attendance: 6,000
Referee: Jack Howcroft (England)
Netherlands | 4–1 | Belgium |
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Lutjens 2' Snethlage 21', 32', 54' |
Report | Goossens 58' |
Attendance: 10,000
Referee: Jack Howcroft (England)
Netherlands | 7–0 | Belgium |
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Welcker 10', 28' M. Francken 15', 45', 62' Thomée 55', 80' |
Report |
Referee: John Howcroft (England)
Netherlands | 3–1 | Belgium |
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M. Francken 28', 76' van Breda Kolff 29' |
Report | Six 36' |
Attendance: 9,000
Referee: George Miller (England)
Netherlands | 4–3 | Belgium |
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van Berckel 1' M. Francken 2', 20', 62' |
Report | Musch 27' Nisot 43', 56' |
Attendance: 10,000
Referee: John Pearson (England)
Netherlands | 2–4 | Belgium |
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Bouvy 35' (pen.) de Groot 55' |
Report | Suetens 2' Musch 20', 40' Nisot 36' |
Attendance: 12,000
Referee: John Baily (England)
Netherlands | 4–2 | Belgium |
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Buitenweg 15', 81' Vos 24' Kessler 62' |
Report | Van Cant 37' Nisot 40' |
Attendance: 28,282
Referee: John Pearson (England)
Netherlands | 1–2 | Belgium |
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Bulder 88' | Report | Dénis 8' (o.g.) Michel 42' |
Attendance: 29,730
Referee: Louis Fourgous (France)
Netherlands | 1–1 | Belgium |
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Heijnen 68' | Report | Thys 34' |
Attendance: 30,000
Referee: Ernst Albihn (Sweden)
Team | Pld | W | D | L | GF | GA | Dif |
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Belgium | 21 | 5 | 5 | 11 | 35 | 55 | -20 |
Netherlands | 21 | 11 | 5 | 5 | 55 | 35 | +20 |
Rank | Name | Team | Goals | Tournament(s) |
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1 | Mannes Francken | Netherlands | 8 | 1910 (3), 1911 (2) and 1912 (3) |
2 | Edu Snethlage | 4 | 1908 (1) and 1909 (3) | |
Jan Thomée | 1908 (2) and 1910 (2) | |||
Fernand Nisot | Belgium | 1912 (1), 1913 (2) and 1914 (1) | ||
5 | Joseph Musch | 3 | 1912 (1) and 1913 (2) |
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Belgium | Draw | Netherlands | Belgium | Netherlands | ||||
1905–25 Coupe Vanden Abeele | 14 | 3* | 3 | 8 | 25 | 34 | ||
1905–23 Rotterdamsch Nieuwsblad Beker | 21 | 5 | 5 | 11 | 35 | 55 | ||
Total | 35 | 8* | 8 | 19 | 60 | 89 | ||
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Rank | Name | Team | Goals | Tournament(s) |
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1 | Mannes Francken | Netherlands | 12 | CVA (4) and RNB (8) |
Herbert Potts | Belgium | CVA (12) | ||
2 | Jan Thomée | Netherlands | 9 | CVA (5) and RNB (4) |
3 | Robert De Veen | Belgium | 7 | CVA (7) |
4 | Eddy de Neve | Netherlands | 6 | CVA (4) and RNB (2) |
Fernand Nisot | Belgium | CVA (2) and RNB (4) | ||
6 | Dé Kessler | Netherlands | 5 | CVA (4) and RNB (1) |
Edu Snethlage | CVA (1) and RNB (4) |
Since the first official tournament in 1905, a total of 6 hat-tricks have been scored in the 35 official cups. The first hat-trick was scored by Eddy de NeveofNetherlands, scoring 4 goals in a 4-1 win at the Coupe Vanden Abeele on 30 April 1905; and the last was by Mannes Francken, netting three goals also for the Netherlands in a 4-3 win at the Rotterdamsch Nieuwsblad Beker on 28 April 1912. The record for the most goals scored in a single match is 4, which has been achieved on just one occasion: by the Dutch Eddy de Neve at the 1904 Coupe Vanden Abeele, with three of his goals coming in extra-time. However, if we also include the unofficial matches, then the record is held by the Englishmen Herbert Potts of Belgium, who netted a whopping seven goals in an 8-0 win at the 1901 Coupe Vanden Abeele. Mannes Francken is the only player to have scored three hat-tricks in these friendly duels, two at RNBs (1910 and 1912) and one at the CVA (1911), which is a remarkable achievement since no one else has even scored two, sept for Herbert Potts if the unofficial games are considered. The Netherlands holds the record for most hat-tricks scored with 5, while Belgium only has 1, which was scored by Robert De Veen. On the other hand, the cups are perfectly balanced on hat-tricks, with each having three.
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# | Player | G | Time of goals | For | Result | Against | Tournament | Date | FIFA report |
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. | Herbert Potts | 7 | ?', ?', ?', ?', ?', ?', ?' | Belgium | 8–0 | Netherlands | 1901 Coupe Vanden Abeele | 28 April 1901 | |
. | Herbert Potts (2) | 4 | ?', ?', ?', ?' | 6–4 | 1904 Coupe Vanden Abeele | 3 January 1904 | |||
1. | Eddy de Neve | 4 | 80', 106', 117', 119' | Netherlands | 4–1 | Belgium | 1905 Coupe Vanden Abeele | 30 April 1905 | |
2. | Robert De Veen | 3 | 52', 68', 80' | Belgium | 7–1 | Netherlands | 1906 Coupe Vanden Abeele | 29 April 1906 | |
3. | Edu Snethlage | 3 | 21', 32', 54' | Netherlands | 4–1 | Belgium | 1909 Rotterdamsch Nieuwsblad Beker | 25 April 1909 | |
4. | Mannes Francken | 3 | 15', 45', 62' | 7–0 | 1910 Rotterdamsch Nieuwsblad Beker | 10 April 1910 | |||
5. | Mannes Francken (2) | 3 | 8', 36', 55' | 5–1 | 1911 Coupe Vanden Abeele | 19 March 1911 | |||
6. | Mannes Francken (3) | 3 | 2', 20', 62' | 4–3 | 1912 Rotterdamsch Nieuwsblad Beker | 28 April 1912 |
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