curprev08:3608:36, 16 October 2023 UndercoverClassicisttalkcontribs 72,850 bytes−122 The MoS does not advise transliterating someone's name into their non-native language: we give alternate names when they're pseudonyms, but not when they're simply the same name in a different writing system (by comparison, we don't give Ross' name or that of his contemporaries in Latin, though they all published theses in that language)undoTag: Visual edit
curprev07:0207:02, 5 September 2023 UndercoverClassicisttalkcontribs 71,838 bytes−37 Point taken, on reflection, that the word "nativist" obscures more than it helps - removed. Some other material returned to the wording in the sources cited: this is referenced to specific sources and we cannot make it read something that the sources do not.undoTag: 2017 wikitext editor
curprev06:3006:30, 5 September 2023 2a02:587:a15:7711:5c5c:76e7:a978:91a0talk 71,870 bytes+43 The latest revision reintroduced the phrase “nativist coup“ that is an inaccurate description of the 3rd of September 1843 revolution, furthermore the phrase “non-Greeks in public service“ is too generic and was amended by borrowing from the latest edit by @UndercoverClassicist to “most of northern Europeans in public service and especially Bavarians“undo
curprev05:5505:55, 5 September 2023 UndercoverClassicisttalkcontribs 71,827 bytes+8 rv good-faith changes which contradict cited material. Ross was not Bavarian, and the cited sources include him (along with his fellow Danes like Hansen, Saxons like Laurent, Prussians like Schaubert, and others) in both the Bavarocracy, the victims of the 1843 revolution, and the mass removal from public service. It is therefore inaccurate to simplify either to "Bavarians".undoTag: 2017 wikitext editor
curprev04:4704:47, 5 September 2023 2a02:587:a15:7711:5c5c:76e7:a978:91a0talk 71,853 bytes+12 Again I removed the phrase “nativist coup“ and “non-greeks“ because the author is [a.] calling a revolution that demanded a constitution from an autocrat monarch who was imposed by the foreign powers of the day as “nativist“ and [b.] the revolution was directed against Otto's Bavarian officials, not “non-greeks“. Whoever made these arbitrary claims they need to provide proof, otherwise they are expressing an opinion.undo
curprev04:1504:15, 5 September 2023 62.74.38.140talk 71,841 bytes+13 Again the 3rd of September 1843 was nit against “non Greeks” but rather against the Bavarian officials of King Otto who ruled as an autocrat. Whoever added the phrase “non greek” is generalising.undoTags: Mobile editMobile web edit
curprev04:1104:11, 5 September 2023 62.74.38.140talk 71,828 bytes−33 Whoever added the epithet "nativist” in relation to the 3rd of September 1843 is expressing their personal opinion. Since when does a revolution the against the autocratic rule of King Otto that demanded the granting of a constitution and the departure of the Bavarian officials is considered nativiist? Ludwig Ross was part of theBavarian establishment. Therefore his departure from his teaching position at the University if Athens came about as a result of the revolution against the autocrat...undoTags: Mobile editMobile web edit