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< Talk:2023 Odisha train collision

This is an old revision of this page, as edited by Kiwiz1338 (talk | contribs)at18:00, 21 June 2024 (add). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.
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GA Review

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Nominator: Magentic Manifestations (talk · contribs) 11:21, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewer: Kiwiz1338 (talk · contribs) 10:29, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]


In its current state, it's going to be a failure. I'm willing to hold it if Magentic Manifestations you're ready to fix these issues? Kiwiz1338 (talk) 16:03, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Kiwiz1338 Thanks for taking it up. Based on your comments, I do not find any major issues that cannot be fixed outright. Will address the concerns and revert accordingly. Magentic Manifestations (talk) 16:15, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sounds good. Thanks Kiwiz1338 (talk) 16:26, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hello @Magentic Manifestations, I'll read over it a few more times and try to get another editor to have a look. There may be more issues to resolve before a possible pass. Kiwiz1338 (talk) 17:50, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Rate Attribute Review Comment
1. Well-written:
1a. the prose is clear, concise, and understandable to an appropriately broad audience; spelling and grammar are correct. Multiple grammatical errors in the lead and body.

Such as suffered from misuse of funds and these could impact the quality of maintenance.

There is no grammatical error here and the sentence is correct grammatically with uniformity in tense. "Could" is used as past tense for an event that might or might not happen.

Despite the railway authorities said that the accident was not a reflection of the safety issues in the system

Tweaked it

assisted by other government agencies and 'the' general public.

changed

Uses of current tense in the body of the article, need to be changed to past tense. See MOS:TENSE.

The use of "loco" needs to be replaced with "locomotive" as some readers may not understand the term loco.

There was only one such instance. Have linked appropriately.

Include the time of the event in the MOS:OPEN

added as per the suggestion
1b. it complies with the Manual of Style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation.
2. Verifiable with no original research, as shown by a source spot-check:
2a. it contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline.
2b. reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose). In the crash section, first paragraph, the Train no:12841 is unreferenced.

It is clearly referenced in #7


Second paragraph in the crash section Three of the derailed coaches from the Coromandel Express careened into the adjacent track and whip-lashed the tail end of the SMVT Bengaluru–Howrah Express, crossing on the down line at the same time. Two unreserved coaches and the brake van of the SMVT Bengaluru–Howrah Express derailed. is very unreferenced

Added additional citations to reference the accident description + details of derailed coaches

In the victim section, there is no mention of the 33 passengers of Howrah Express in reference Tweaked it

Mention of search dog in Emergency response, unreferenced Added

2c. it contains no original research.
2d. it contains no copyright violationsorplagiarism. Copyvio detector is fine
3. Broad in its coverage:
3a. it addresses the main aspects of the topic. Yes, although I think something missing should be included. You should mention in the victims section of deceased bodies being given and/or claimed to the wrong familes

Added

3b. it stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style). As this was the first time I have heard or read about this collision I believe everything was understandable, even without prior context.

{{GATable/item|4||3=At first I thought Political columnist Apoorvanand stated that the accident was used as an opportunity to demonise Muslims. In the aftermath of the train crash, posts by various accounts known for spreading Hindutva and BJP propaganda, started circulating messages blaming Muslims for the accident on different social media platforms and WhatsApp groups. was WP:UNDUE. But looking at the sources, even the Odisha Police made a statement regarding social media posts, so I think this aspect deserves a mention. Speaking of that, you could mention Odisha Police's comment on it. This will add WP:BALANCE
I tend to agree on it. But as these kind of statements always end up in discussion on controversial subjects, persisted with it. So adding the police comment, which might lend some counter view to it.

5. Stable: it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute. No edit warring but just recently undergone a few major edits
6. Illustrated, if possible, by media such as images, video, or audio:
6a. media are tagged with their copyright statuses, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content. Reverse image searching finds no link to any copyrighted source. Tagged.
6b. media are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions. Great diagram in the crash section I must say. Looking at the diagram having read the crash section, I could picture it. I would, however, move this image down, having it next to the text starting At about 19:00 hrs IST, the Coromandel Express was supposed to pass. As this is what the diagram is trying to show.

I would also remove A_scene_from_interior_part_of_inverted_Coromandel_coach_after_the_tragic_accident.jpg Both done.

7. Overall assessment. In its current state, it's going to be a failure. I'm willing to hold it if Magentic Manifestations you're ready to fix these issues?

@Kiwiz1338, I have addressed your comments. Do let me know in case of further clarifications. Thanks! Magentic Manifestations (talk) 16:53, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]


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