Talk:Academy Award for Best Supporting Actress: Difference between revisions

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==Protected==

Page protected as per [[Wikipedia:Requests for page protection]]. Should definitely be unprotected before the ceremony on Feb 27, but according to the request, a few days should suffice. Please request unprotection at [[Wikipedia:Requests for page protection]] in a (very) few days. -- [[User:Chris 73|Chris 73]] [[User talk:Chris 73|Talk]] 07:22, Feb 4, 2005 (UTC)

== Take Off The Flags ==

I suggest we take off the flags. It makes the whole article messy and confusing with the colorful flags all over the place. The flags overshadows the names of the nominees and winners, in my opinion. Besides this is the Oscar not the Olympics.<span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/69.3.232.79|69.3.232.79]] ([[User talk:69.3.232.79|talk]]) 04:40, 11 February 2007 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP -->

:I agree - they are distracting and irrelevant. Please remove if a consensus is reached once this is unprotected. &mdash; [[User:Mrmaroon25|mrmaroon25]] ([[User talk:Mrmaroon25|talk]] <small>•</small> [[Special:Contributions/Mrmaroon25|contribs]]) 03:44, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

==Article Stripped Bare==

Someone has single-handedly decided to delete a great deal of important information (to say nothing of contributors' hard work) from this article. What can be done? ([[User:JosephASpadaro|JosephASpadaro]] 05:34, 10 March 2007 (UTC))

== Nationalities of winners table ==

I have some concerns about the "Nationalities of winners" table that was recently added to this article along with the [[Academy Award for Best Actress|Best Actress]], [[Academy Award for Best Actor|Best Actor]], and [[Academy Award for Best Supporting Actor|Best Supporting Actor]] articles &ndash; many of them regard issues similar to what are raised [[WP:MOSFLAG]].

What is the primary reason and basis to determine nationality or citizenship of the winners? Is it the nationality or citizenship of each actors' birth? Is it the nationality or citizenship when their specified film was released? Or is it their nationality or citizenship today?

There are many actors and actress like Oscar winners [[Anthony Hopkins]], [[John Houseman]], [[Elizabeth Taylor]], and [[Charlize Theron]] who have changed their citizenship during their career. So unless there is some sort of standard, I am afraid I will have to remove the table. Thanks. [[User:Zzyzx11|Zzyzx11]] [[User talk:Zzyzx11|(Talk)]] 06:31, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

: What is it that you are ultimately looking to achieve ... removing the tables ... or establishing a standard? Those are two very different objectives. If it is the latter, I am sure that some standard can be derived through consensus. ([[User:Joseph A. Spadaro|Joseph A. Spadaro]] ([[User talk:Joseph A. Spadaro|talk]]) 06:52, 25 November 2007 (UTC))

::'''Please centralize discussion at [[Talk:Academy_Award_for_Best_Actor#Nationalities_of_winners_table]]''' to avoid repitition'''. (Per [[User:Cop 663|Cop 663]] [[User talk:Cop 663|talk]] 13:56, 25 November 2007 (UTC)) ([[User:Joseph A. Spadaro|Joseph A. Spadaro]] ([[User talk:Joseph A. Spadaro|talk]]) 18:19, 25 November 2007 (UTC))

== Kate Winslet ==

I added Kate Winslet to the table a few days ago under 'Most nominations (without ever winning) - Overall' along with Deborah Kerr and Thelma Ritter, as she now also has 6 nominations. However, this has now been removed (by an unregistered user) - can whoever reverted this explain their reasoning? As far as I can see, this box in the table encompasses both Leading and Supporting nominations, and therefore Winslet ties with Ritter and Kerr.

I'll check back in a day or two and add it again unless a reason is given.

[[User:Brianwilsonisgod|Brianwilsonisgod]] ([[User talk:Brianwilsonisgod|talk]]) 05:44, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

:Well, a couple things. I can't see where you've ever edited this article. Perhaps you meant this note to go on [[Academy Award for Best Actress]]? Meanwhile, I wouldn't put that in a table as a fact until the actual awards are given this year and she hasn't won. Otherwise, it's a bit of jumping the gun that will have to be changed if she wins. [[User:Wildhartlivie|Wildhartlivie]] ([[User talk:Wildhartlivie|talk]]) 06:36, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Yes, you're right sorry - I did edit it on the Best Actress page - but the table here shows the same statistics so the point stands.

I don't understand the argument of waiting until the end of February in case we need to change it back. It's true now, and should say so - if it changes at the next Oscars ceremony, then the article should be changed again accordingly...

[[User:Brianwilsonisgod|Brianwilsonisgod]] ([[User talk:Brianwilsonisgod|talk]]) 01:43, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

==Curse?==

Should there be any mention of the Best Supporting Actress curse which has befallen many actresses who have won the award?

[[User:Loser user|Loser user]] <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|undated]] comment added 18:13, 22 February 2010 (UTC).</span><!--Template:Undated--> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:And what "curse' is that? [[User:Wildhartlivie|Wildhartlivie]] ([[User talk:Wildhartlivie|talk]]) 20:08, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

:The "curse" in which a number of actresses have seen their careers fade away or have little success after winning the award. I know of several articles which discuss the "curse" of winning Best Supporting Actress. [[User:Loser user|Loser user]] ([[User:Loser user|talk]]) 22:32, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

::And what articles would that be? [[User:Wildhartlivie|Wildhartlivie]] ([[User talk:Wildhartlivie|talk]]) 05:40, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

::Here's one I've found dated last year. I take the notion of a "curse" with a grain of salt. http://www.cbc.ca/arts/film/story/2009/02/17/f-2009-oscars-best-supporting-actress-curse.html[[User:Crboyer|Crboyer]] ([[User talk:Crboyer|talk]]) 04:41, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

== Academy Award winning performances of non-fictional characters ==

Another editor brought to my attention the following list of (acting) Academy Award winning performances of non-fictional characters. I will leave it to others to ascertain whether or not this information belongs in the main article. I am posting it on the Talk Pages of the four acting Academy Awards in the event that someone wants to add in the information, as appropriate. I am also posting it for general information, in the event that a reader would like to know these facts. Thanks. ([[User:Joseph A. Spadaro|Joseph A. Spadaro]] ([[User talk:Joseph A. Spadaro|talk]]) 20:38, 2 April 2011 (UTC))

* '''Best Actor''': [[Forest Whitaker]] for ''[[The Last King of Scotland (film)|The Last King of Scotland]]''; [[Robert Deniro]] for ''[[Raging Bull]]''; [[Philip Seymore Hoffman]] for ''[[Capote (film)|Capote]]''; [[Jamie Foxx]] for ''[[Ray (film)|Ray]]''; [[Geoffrey Rush]] for ''[[Shine (film)|Shine]]''; [[Sean Penn]] for ''[[Milk (film)|Milk)]]''; [[Daniel Day-Lewis]] for ''[[My Left Foot (film)|My Left Foot]]''; [[Adrien Brody]] for ''[[The Pianist (2002 film)|The Pianist]]''; [[F. Murray Abraham]] for ''[[Amadeus (film)|Amadeus]]''; [[Ben Kingsley]] for ''[[Gandhi (film)|Gandhi]]''; [[George C. Scott]] for ''[[Patton (film)|Patton]]''; [[Gene Hackman]] for ''[[The French Connection (film)|The French Connection]]''; [[Paul Scofield]] for ''[[A Man for All Seasons (1966 film)|A Man for All Seasons]]''; [[Yul Brynner]] for ''[[The King and I (1956 film)|The King and I]]''; [[James Cagney]] for ''[[Yankee Doodle Dandy]]''; [[Gary Cooper]] for ''[[Sergeant York]]''; [[Paul Muni]] for ''[[The Story of Louis Pasteur]]''; [[Charles Laughton]] for ''[[The Private Life of Henry VIII]]''; [[George Arliss]] for ''[[Disraeli (film)|Disraeli]]''; and [[Jeremy Irons]] for ''[[Reversal of Fortune]]''.

* '''Best Actress''': [[Sandra Bullock]] for ''[[The Blind Side (film)|The Blind Side]]''; [[Reese Witherspoon]] for ''[[Walk the Line]]''; [[Helen Mirren]] for ''[[The Queen (film)|The Queen]]''; [[Marion Cotillard]] for ''[[La Vie En Rose (film)|La Vie En Rose]]''; [[Charlize Theron]] for ''[[Monster (2003 film)|Monster]]''; [[Nicole Kidman]] for ''[[The Hours (film)|The Hours]]''; [[Julia Roberts]] for ''[[Erin Brockovich (film)|Erin Brockovich]]''; [[Hillary Swank]] for ''[[Boys Don't Cry (film)|Boys Don't Cry]]''; [[Susan Sarandon]] for ''[[Dead Men Walking (film)|Dead Men Walking]]''; [[Jodie Foster]] for ''[[The Accused (1988 film)|The Accused]]''; [[Sissy Spacek]] for ''[[Coal Miner's Daughter]]''; [[Katharine Hepburn]] for ''[[The Lion in Winter (1968 film)|The Lion in Winter]]''; [[Anne Bancroft]] for ''[[The Miracle Worker (1962 film)|The Miracle Worker)]]''; [[Susan Hayward]] for ''[[I Want to Live!]]''; [[Joanne Woodward]] for ''[[The Three Faces of Eve]]''; [[Ingrid Bergman]] for ''[[Anastasia (1956 film)|Anastasia]]''; [[Jennifer Jones]] for ''[[The Song of Bernadette (film)|The Song of Bernadette]]''; and [[Luise Rainer]] for ''[[The Great Ziegfeld]]''.

* '''Best Supporting Actor''': [[Chris Cooper]] for ''[[Adaptation.]]''; [[Jim Broadbent]] for ''[[Iris (film)|Iris]]''; [[Martin Landau]] for ''[[Ed Wood (film)|Ed Wood]]''; [[Haing S. Ngor]] for ''[[The Killing Fields (film)|The Killing Fields]]''; [[Jason Robards]] for ''[[Julia (1977 film)|Julia]]''; [[Jason Robards]] for ''[[All the President's Men (film)|All the President's Men]]''; [[Peter Ustinov]] for ''[[Spartacus (film)|Spartacus]]''; [[Anthony Quinn]] for ''[[Lust for Life (film)|Lust for Life]]''; [[Anthony Quinn]] for ''[[Viva Zapata!]]''; [[Walter Brennan]] for ''[[The Westerner (film)|The Westerner]]''; and [[Joseph Schildkraut]] for ''[[The Life of Emile Zola]]''.

* '''Best Supporting Actress''': [[Cate Blanchett]] for ''[[The Aviator (2004 film)|The Aviator]]''; [[Jennifer Connelly]] for ''[[A Beautiful Mind (film)|A Beautiful Mind]]''; [[Marcia Gay Harden]] for ''[[Pollock (film)|Pollock]]''; [[Judi Dench]] for ''[[Shakespeare in Love]]''; [[Angelina Jolie]] for ''[[Girl, Interrupted (film)|Girl, Interrupted]]''; [[Brenda Fricker]] for ''[[My Left Foot (film)|My Left Foot]]''; [[Maureen Stapleton]] for ''[[Reds (film)|Reds]]''; [[Mary Steenburgen]] for ''[[Melvin and Howard]]''; [[Vanessa Redgrave]] for ''[[Julia (1977 film)|Julia]]''; [[Estelle Parsons]] for ''[[Bonnie and Clyde (film)|Bonnie and Clyde]]''; [[Patty Duke]] for ''[[The Miracle Worker (1962 film)|The Miracle Worker]]''; [[Shelly Winters]] for ''[[The Diary of Anne Frank (1959 film)|The Diary of Anne Frank]]''; and [[Alice Brady]] for ''[[In Old Chicago]]''.<small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Joseph A. Spadaro|Joseph A. Spadaro]] ([[User talk:Joseph A. Spadaro|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Joseph A. Spadaro|contribs]]) 20:44, 2 April 2011 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned -->

== Multiple nominations table ==

I again undid the reversion by [[User:Musdan77|Musdan77]] re-adding the table. The table uses inconsistent formatting, centering the sole person receiving four nominations and then left-aligning the lists of those receiving three and two nominations. Additionally, the headers are center aligned, while the bulk of the table is left aligned. Also, the tables have been removed from the other similar articles ([[Academy Award for Best Supporting Actor|Best Supporting Actor]], [[Academy Award for Best Actor|Best Actor]], & [[Academy Award for Best Actress|Best Actress]]), and prior to the removal of the other tables, none of them were consistently formatted. [[User:AldezD|AldezD]] ([[User talk:AldezD|talk]]) 18:07, 3 April 2014 (UTC)

:Yes, once again you have violated [[WP:BRD]] by reverting back before consensus is found. For the record, I think the table gives it a much cleaner, more helpful appearance. --[[User:Musdan77|Musdan77]] ([[User talk:Musdan77|talk]]) 18:25, 3 April 2014 (UTC)

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== Character or Role? ==

{{reply to|Crisco 1492|Giants 2008|The Rambling Man|SchroCat|PresN|Cowlibob|SNUGGUMS}}: Which is more appropriate for the acting Oscar awards tables? Character(s) or Role(s)? I really do not mind either one, but I do believe in consistency for the featured lists.

:--[[User:Birdienest81|Birdienest81]] ([[User talk:Birdienest81|talk]]) 17:03, 30 July 2015 (UTC)