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Page protected as per Wikipedia:Requests for page protection. Should definitely be unprotected before the ceremony on Feb 27, but according to the request, a few days should suffice. Please request unprotection at Wikipedia:Requests for page protection in a (very) few days. -- Chris 73 Talk 07:22, Feb 4, 2005 (UTC)

I suggest we take off the flags. It makes the whole article messy and confusing with the colorful flags all over the place. The flags overshadows the names of the nominees and winners, in my opinion. Besides this is the Oscar not the Olympics.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.3.232.79 (talk) 04:40, 11 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I agree - they are distracting and irrelevant. Please remove if a consensus is reached once this is unprotected. — mrmaroon25 (talk • contribs) 03:44, 26 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Someone has single-handedly decided to delete a great deal of important information (to say nothing of contributors' hard work) from this article. What can be done? (JosephASpadaro 05:34, 10 March 2007 (UTC))[reply]

I have some concerns about the "Nationalities of winners" table that was recently added to this article along with the Best Actress, Best Actor, and Best Supporting Actor articles – many of them regard issues similar to what are raised WP:MOSFLAG.

What is the primary reason and basis to determine nationality or citizenship of the winners? Is it the nationality or citizenship of each actors' birth? Is it the nationality or citizenship when their specified film was released? Or is it their nationality or citizenship today?

There are many actors and actress like Oscar winners Anthony Hopkins, John Houseman, Elizabeth Taylor, and Charlize Theron who have changed their citizenship during their career. So unless there is some sort of standard, I am afraid I will have to remove the table. Thanks. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 06:31, 25 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

What is it that you are ultimately looking to achieve ... removing the tables ... or establishing a standard? Those are two very different objectives. If it is the latter, I am sure that some standard can be derived through consensus. (Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 06:52, 25 November 2007 (UTC))[reply]

Please centralize discussion at Talk:Academy_Award_for_Best_Actor#Nationalities_of_winners_table to avoid repitition. (Per Cop 663 talk 13:56, 25 November 2007 (UTC)) (Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 18:19, 25 November 2007 (UTC))[reply]

I added Kate Winslet to the table a few days ago under 'Most nominations (without ever winning) - Overall' along with Deborah Kerr and Thelma Ritter, as she now also has 6 nominations. However, this has now been removed (by an unregistered user) - can whoever reverted this explain their reasoning? As far as I can see, this box in the table encompasses both Leading and Supporting nominations, and therefore Winslet ties with Ritter and Kerr. I'll check back in a day or two and add it again unless a reason is given. Brianwilsonisgod (talk) 05:44, 27 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Well, a couple things. I can't see where you've ever edited this article. Perhaps you meant this note to go on Academy Award for Best Actress? Meanwhile, I wouldn't put that in a table as a fact until the actual awards are given this year and she hasn't won. Otherwise, it's a bit of jumping the gun that will have to be changed if she wins. Wildhartlivie (talk) 06:36, 27 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, you're right sorry - I did edit it on the Best Actress page - but the table here shows the same statistics so the point stands. I don't understand the argument of waiting until the end of February in case we need to change it back. It's true now, and should say so - if it changes at the next Oscars ceremony, then the article should be changed again accordingly... Brianwilsonisgod (talk) 01:43, 28 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Should there be any mention of the Best Supporting Actress curse which has befallen many actresses who have won the award? Loser user —Preceding undated comment added 18:13, 22 February 2010 (UTC).[reply]

And what "curse' is that? Wildhartlivie (talk) 20:08, 22 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The "curse" in which a number of actresses have seen their careers fade away or have little success after winning the award. I know of several articles which discuss the "curse" of winning Best Supporting Actress. Loser user (talk) 22:32, 27 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

And what articles would that be? Wildhartlivie (talk) 05:40, 28 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Here's one I've found dated last year. I take the notion of a "curse" with a grain of salt. http://www.cbc.ca/arts/film/story/2009/02/17/f-2009-oscars-best-supporting-actress-curse.htmlCrboyer (talk) 04:41, 2 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Another editor brought to my attention the following list of (acting) Academy Award winning performances of non-fictional characters. I will leave it to others to ascertain whether or not this information belongs in the main article. I am posting it on the Talk Pages of the four acting Academy Awards in the event that someone wants to add in the information, as appropriate. I am also posting it for general information, in the event that a reader would like to know these facts. Thanks. (Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 20:38, 2 April 2011 (UTC))[reply]

• Best Actor: Forest Whitaker for The Last King of Scotland; Robert Deniro for Raging Bull; Philip Seymore Hoffman for Capote; Jamie Foxx for Ray; Geoffrey Rush for Shine; Sean Penn for Milk); Daniel Day-Lewis for My Left Foot; Adrien Brody for The Pianist; F. Murray Abraham for Amadeus; Ben Kingsley for Gandhi; George C. Scott for Patton; Gene Hackman for The French Connection; Paul Scofield for A Man for All Seasons; Yul Brynner for The King and I; James Cagney for Yankee Doodle Dandy; Gary Cooper for Sergeant York; Paul Muni for The Story of Louis Pasteur; Charles Laughton for The Private Life of Henry VIII; George Arliss for Disraeli; and Jeremy Irons for Reversal of Fortune.
• Best Actress: Sandra Bullock for The Blind Side; Reese Witherspoon for Walk the Line; Helen Mirren for The Queen; Marion Cotillard for La Vie En Rose; Charlize Theron for Monster; Nicole Kidman for The Hours; Julia Roberts for Erin Brockovich; Hillary Swank for Boys Don't Cry; Susan Sarandon for Dead Men Walking; Jodie Foster for The Accused; Sissy Spacek for Coal Miner's Daughter; Katharine Hepburn for The Lion in Winter; Anne Bancroft for The Miracle Worker); Susan Hayward for I Want to Live!; Joanne Woodward for The Three Faces of Eve; Ingrid Bergman for Anastasia; Jennifer Jones for The Song of Bernadette; and Luise Rainer for The Great Ziegfeld.
• Best Supporting Actor: Chris Cooper for Adaptation.; Jim Broadbent for Iris; Martin Landau for Ed Wood; Haing S. Ngor for The Killing Fields; Jason Robards for Julia; Jason Robards for All the President's Men; Peter Ustinov for Spartacus; Anthony Quinn for Lust for Life; Anthony Quinn for Viva Zapata!; Walter Brennan for The Westerner; and Joseph Schildkraut for The Life of Emile Zola.
• Best Supporting Actress: Cate Blanchett for The Aviator; Jennifer Connelly for A Beautiful Mind; Marcia Gay Harden for Pollock; Judi Dench for Shakespeare in Love; Angelina Jolie for Girl, Interrupted; Brenda Fricker for My Left Foot; Maureen Stapleton for Reds; Mary Steenburgen for Melvin and Howard; Vanessa Redgrave for Julia; Estelle Parsons for Bonnie and Clyde; Patty Duke for The Miracle Worker; Shelly Winters for The Diary of Anne Frank; and Alice Brady for In Old Chicago.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Joseph A. Spadaro (talk • contribs) 20:44, 2 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I again undid the reversion by Musdan77 re-adding the table. The table uses inconsistent formatting, centering the sole person receiving four nominations and then left-aligning the lists of those receiving three and two nominations. Additionally, the headers are center aligned, while the bulk of the table is left aligned. Also, the tables have been removed from the other similar articles (Best Supporting Actor, Best Actor, & Best Actress), and prior to the removal of the other tables, none of them were consistently formatted. AldezD (talk) 18:07, 3 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, once again you have violated WP:BRD by reverting back before consensus is found. For the record, I think the table gives it a much cleaner, more helpful appearance. --Musdan77 (talk) 18:25, 3 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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@Crisco 1492, Giants2008, The Rambling Man, SchroCat, PresN, Cowlibob, SNUGGUMS, and FrB.TG:: Which is more appropriate for the acting Oscar awards tables? Character(s) or Role(s)? I really do not mind either one, but I do believe in consistency for the featured lists.

--Birdienest81 (talk) 17:03, 30 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• How are they described by the Academy? Go with their description if there is something consistent to use there. - SchroCat (talk) 17:10, 30 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• The only thing I'll add is that I personally use role, which is what an actor takes on. Tim riley and Ssilvers, what think you? – SchroCat (talk) 18:14, 30 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The two words are exactly synonymous when applied to a particular part in a movie. If the Academy doesn't choose one of these terms to prefer (and if the Film project has not discussed the issue already), then I would choose the shorter word, "Role". -- Ssilvers (talk) 18:39, 30 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The Academy doesn't use a specific term when searching in the acting nominations on their site. Character is the best choice. When an actor performs a role in any medium they are creating a character. Character is used in all other lists of the same medium Screen Actors Guild Award for Outstanding Performance by a Female Actor in a Leading Role, Golden Globe Award for Best Actress in a Motion Picture – Comedy or Musical, etc. HesioneHushabye (talk) 17:26, 30 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I don't really have a preference. Snuggums (talk / edits) 17:34, 30 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Left a note at User talk:Michael 182 about his changes to the 4 related AA acting articles. Do any other editors/readers care about keeping the list as one continuous sortable table, or do you prefer a split by decade, and if so, why? Thanks. Brian W. Schaller (talk) 00:50, 2 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

No comments in a week, so nobody seems to care. Leaving it split is ok with this editor, though now someone's deleting wikilinks for no apparent reason. Guess the split table makes it easier to vandalize. Isn't anyone else watching this 'featured' list? Brian W. Schaller (talk) 22:12, 8 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]