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Boeing CST-100 Starliner → Boeing Starliner – Moved, 5 July 2020 (Discussion)
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For the Orbital Flight Test, the lead gives the landing time in UTC, which I understand, and EST, which I don't. The landing was in New Mexico new Mexico isn't on Eastern Standard Time. Am I missing something? Fcrary (talk) 23:13, 7 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Boeing Mission Control is located at the Kennedy Space Center, which is in EST. For the same reason, you'll often see NASA missions noted in CST (Houston's time zone). Wilford Nusser (talk) 15:58, 29 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Requested move 15 June 2020
The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
^Cawley, James (2019-12-16). "Boeing and NASA Approach Milestone Orbital Flight Test". NASA. Retrieved 2020-06-15. The uncrewed mission for NASA's Commercial Crew Program will rendezvous and dock Boeing's CST-100 Starliner spacecraft with the International Space Station and return to Earth on Dec. 28. Starliner will launch atop a United Launch Alliance Atlas V rocket from Space Launch Complex 41 (SLC-41) at Cape Canaveral Air Force Station in Florida.
^Berger, Eric (2019-11-04). "Starliner flies for the first time, but one of its parachutes failed to deploy". Ars Technica. Retrieved 2020-06-15. On a cold Monday morning in New Mexico, Boeing's Starliner spacecraft took flight for the first time. Under the power of its main launch abort engines, the capsule accelerated to 650mph in just 5 seconds during a demonstration of its escape system.
Suppoer – It's about time. CST-100 was a technical designation used during capsule development. The Starliner name is now preferred by most RS. — JFGtalk06:14, 16 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Relisting comment If I closed this right now, I'd have to disregard much of the opposition. Opposers should provide evidence of RS preferring the current name as over the proposed name if they intend to rebut the nominator's assertion, which is backed by (at least some) sources. --Mdaniels5757 (talk) 15:56, 24 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support – I second JFG's sentiment that it indeed is about time. Here's a selection of sources – all from 2020 – that specifically refer to the spacecraft as "Boeing Starliner".[1][2][3][4][5][6] Note that only two of these seven sources even mention the "CST-100" part of the name. In addition, here's a selection of sources which describe it as "Boeing's Starliner" without once mentioning the "CST-100" part of the name.[7][8][9][10][11][12][13][14] The point is, the "CST-100" part of the name is no longer used often enough to justify its use to disambiguate the article now that it is declining as a commonly recognisable name per Wikipedia's policy on commonly recognisable article titles. Regardless of this, "Boeing Starliner" is also concise enough per Wikipedia's policy on conciseness in article titles, while "Boeing CST-100 Starliner" is too precise per Wikipedia's policy on precision in article titles.
^"NASA, Boeing managers admit problems with Starliner software verification", Spaceflight Now, "Two software errors detected after launch of a Boeing Starliner crew ship during an unpiloted test flight last December [...] Neither Loverro, NASA Administrator Jim Bridenstine nor Boeing Starliner project manager John Mulholland [...] The Boeing CST-100 Starliner was launched from Cape Canaveral..."
Comment – @Mdaniels5757: What's your current opinion on closing this discussion, now that any opposing arguments have failed to materialise in the eight days since you relisted the discussion? – PhilipTerryGraham (talk·articles·reviews)05:05, 3 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I think the consensus is fairly clearly in favor of a move, but since my relisting comment could be construed as taking a side (even though it wasn't, IMO), I'll leave this for someone else to close. Best, --Mdaniels5757 (talk) 14:53, 3 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Is that still right? Calypso is planned to fly CFT and then Starliner-1 as well? The only source I find is older than the OFT - made at a point where Spacecraft 2 was planned to fly CFT. With the added OFT-2 I think this source is obsolete. --mfb (talk) 19:35, 6 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
The Boeing CST-100[a] Starliner[5] is a class of reusable crew capsules expected to transport crew to the International Space Station (ISS) [6] and other low Earth orbit destinations.[7] It is manufactured by Boeing for its participation in NASA's Commercial Crew Program. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.76.112.31 (talk) 21:29, 23 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Boe-OFT
Spacecraft 3
Calypso
20 December 2019, 11:36:43 N/A First uncrewed orbital test flight of Starliner. The mission's main objective of ISS rendezvous was aborted due to software incorrectly keeping mission time, leading to a late orbital insertion burn with excessive fuel expenditure. Starliner landed in New Mexico two days after launch.[74][75][76][61]
2 days Mission Partially Completed — Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.76.112.31 (talk) 21:35, 23 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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