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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by Merond e (talk | contribs)at08:51, 26 February 2008 (Confusion: What is this article?: add comment). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.
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Post-merger help required

Article has been merged as per discussion on Talk:Christian worship. However, several things need to be fixed now:

  1. Merging of related articles on other language Wikipedias:
    1. Worship leader:
      1. pl:Lider uwielbienia
      2. sv:Lovsångsledare
      3. vi:Worship leader
    2. Worship music:
      1. de:Lobpreis und Anbetung
      2. fr:Louange
      3. ko:워십
      4. nl:Aanbiddingsmuziek
      5. pl:Praise & worship
      6. sv:Lovsång
  2. Cleanup of the resultant article, re-writing it so that the entire article is cohesive
  3. Alignment of images

I will be working on the cleanup and alignment of images, as much as time allows. But as always, any help is welcome. Thanks! aJCfreak yAk 11:22, 31 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Confusion: What is this article?

This article "Contemporary Christian worship" seems at best confused and at worst biased.

The title could mean a wide variety of different things, such as: Catholic worship since Vatican 2, "Contemporary Christian Music" (CCM) as a recorded home-listening aid to private worship, corporate church worship with a "worship song" slant, Taize reflective prayers, Iona Community Christian social activism, and so on and so on...

The opening paragraph seems to be setting the scene across a worldwide range of Christian worship practice; indeed the first sentence takes us across "Eastern Orthodox", "Catholic" and "Western Church". But then a quick glance through the contents and skim-read across the text shows a very strong bias towards the CCM and "worship song" aspects, to the exclusion of almost everything else (both worship and non-Western-church).

This article starts off saying one thing ("We're going to cover everything contemporary") but then covers only one single, small aspect (CCM/worship-song music strand).

In fact, is it not thus quite misleading and biased?

A more subtle, but equally serious, flaw is that the title is "...worship" but the content is almost exclusively "music". Many of us with a foot (or more) in "worship-song"-related traditions tend to think "music" and "worship" are almost the same. (As soon as we read such a sentence we immediately protest!)

I would suggest the need to address the following points:

The present situation has (as St. Paul might say) fallen short. But with some work, this set of articles could be a really useful, coherent, cross-referenced resource here in wikipedia.

Hope that helps.

Feline Hymnic 22:03, 21 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]


Now that a month has elapsed since the comments above, I have added a 'POV-check' to the main article.

Feline Hymnic (talk) 23:29, 23 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, I agree with you, FH, but I do not think the article is intentionally biased. It looks like several other article were taken and merged together, but no one spent the time to refine them to match the new subject and add coherence. The topic certainly needs to be expanded on and more views need to be given. Something also needs to be said about how singing in church is often mistakenly called worship, when it is only a part of worship. This probably sprouted from calling the music "worship music." I think I'm going to create a user sub-page to start working on this project. :) If anyone wants to help out feel free to contribute here: User:Merond e/Worship Project. --Merond e 06:28, 18 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Apologies. My phrase "In fact, is it not thus quite misleading and biased?" was too strong. I did not mean to suggest anything deliberate or intentional; I'm sure all was "in good faith". Rather (and simply) that we happen to have ended up with an article which sets out to cover a vast and varied field, and the contributions to it (for which we should, of course, be grateful) happen to have been mostly concentrated in just one part of it. My use of 'misleading' was poor; it was to convey that an outside user, finding an article that said it was covering the whole field could end up thinking that the CCM corner of field was representative of the whole field. Rather like if an article about "colours of the rainbow" talked only about red and perhaps a hint towards orange. (Or something like that!) Feline Hymnic (talk) 15:17, 24 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, I understand. :) I was sure you meant no harm. So are you going to help work on it? Don't forget I have a copy for us to play around with over here: User:Merond e/Worship Project. --Merond e 08:51, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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