Talk:Fake news in India: Difference between revisions

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== ENGVAR ==

Is this article written in Indian English? And is the term "tied up" idiomatic in that variant of English? Here, it is used like "partnered". I don't want to change it if it is considered correct usage. [[User:Elizium23|Elizium23]] ([[User talk:Elizium23|talk]]) 01:59, 13 September 2019 (UTC)

: Yes, it is being used like ''partnered''... and although ''tied up'' is ok in Indian English (as far as I know), I will change it to partnered. Thanks for pointing it out. [[User:DiplomatTesterMan|DiplomatTesterMan]] ([[User talk:DiplomatTesterMan|talk]]) 07:50, 14 September 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for making the article more accessible to International audiences along with Indian ones. [[User:Hmx098amd64|Hmx098amd64]] ([[User talk:Hmx098amd64|talk]]) 06:06, 22 June 2020 (UTC)

== Kashmir section only presents Indian narrative ==

International newspapers have reported 'beatings and torture' by Indian security forces (see [https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-49481180 BBC report], [https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/10/world/asia/kashmir-india-pakistan.html NYT report]). But the Kashmir section in this Wikipedia article labels reports of 'suffering' as fake news (and cites only Indian newspapers for this). That's why I labelled this section as 'unbalanced towards certain viewpoints'. --[[User:Ankush.Sharma.1992|Ankush]] ([[User talk:Ankush.Sharma.1992|talk]]) 09:01, 13 September 2019 (UTC)

: [[User:Ankush.Sharma.1992|Ankush]], can you please go ahead and make the changes required to make the section in consideration more balanced. So that the tag can be removed as soon as possible. Regards. [[User:DiplomatTesterMan|DiplomatTesterMan]] ([[User talk:DiplomatTesterMan|talk]]) 09:27, 14 September 2019 (UTC)

:: The doubt raised here has already been addressed on the page#section - [[Indian_revocation_of_Jammu_and_Kashmir's_special_status#Social_media,_activism_and_misinformation|Indian revocation of Jammu and Kashmir's special status#Social media, activism and misinformation]]. There is no need to duplicate the information here. I am removing the template on the basis of this as that section counters the points raised by the user. [[User:DiplomatTesterMan|DiplomatTesterMan]] ([[User talk:DiplomatTesterMan|talk]]) 06:55, 20 September 2019 (UTC)

::: I agree with {{U|Ankush.Sharma.1992}}. The section seems to take it for granted that whatever the government calls "fake news" is indeed fake news. Since the Kashmiri media is totally shut down, and the Indian media has been arm-twisted to follow the party line, we have no idea what is fake and what is not. I think the entire section needs to be [[WP:In-text attribution|attributed]] to the sources making the claims. -- [[User:Kautilya3|Kautilya3]] ([[User talk:Kautilya3|talk]]) 09:55, 20 September 2019 (UTC)

:::: Point noted and it makes sense. I will address accordingly in the article. Will take some time, unless someone else does it first. [[User:DiplomatTesterMan|DiplomatTesterMan]] ([[User talk:DiplomatTesterMan|talk]]) 11:11, 20 September 2019 (UTC)

::::: Does adding the word "alleged" to the sentence clear this particular sentence of biasedness?

::::: In August 2019, following the Indian revocation of Jammu and Kashmir's Article 370, the Indian government went into war-footing fighting ''alleged'' fake news related to people suffering, lack of supplies and other administration issues.

::::: [[User:DiplomatTesterMan|DiplomatTesterMan]] ([[User talk:DiplomatTesterMan|talk]]) 14:31, 20 September 2019 (UTC)

{{od}}

I don't think so. The whole section needs to be gutted and rewritten from scratch. Evidently, the current write-up is not talking about fake news per so, but about how supposedly the "Indian government" is fighting fake news, basically reproducing planted news stories. The government's own fake news, exposed by BBC, NYT, ''The Independent'' etc. never find any mention. -- [[User:Kautilya3|Kautilya3]] ([[User talk:Kautilya3|talk]]) 18:29, 20 September 2019 (UTC)

:{{working}} [[User:DiplomatTesterMan|DiplomatTesterMan]] ([[User talk:DiplomatTesterMan|talk]]) 05:28, 21 September 2019 (UTC)

: I think I have done a decent job for now. Will take this up again only after a few days from my side, unless anyone else wants to make changes. [[User:DiplomatTesterMan|DiplomatTesterMan]] ([[User talk:DiplomatTesterMan|talk]]) 05:57, 21 September 2019 (UTC)

=== Twitter accounts ===

Dawn [https://www.dawn.com/news/1500457 reported] that 200 Twitter accounts were suspended on 20 August, for ''unspecified reasons''. India Today [https://www.indiatoday.in/world/story/pakistan-twitter-accounts-suspended-kashmir-1595691-2019-09-05 wrote] on 5 September that they were suspended for writing "false and provocative content" as reported by Indian authorities. OpIndia <nowiki>[https://www.opindia.com/2019/09/pakistans-fake-news-gang-busted-twitter-suspends-50-fake-handles-impersonating-top-indian-army-personnel/ claimed]</nowiki> that it was a "fake news gang" that got busted. Go figure. -- [[User:Kautilya3|Kautilya3]] ([[User talk:Kautilya3|talk]]) 20:30, 20 September 2019 (UTC)

== 256 fake news sites ==

*https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/265-fake-news-websites-in-over-65-countries-managed-by-indian-influence-networks-study/article29967820.ece

someone should add --''<span style="text-shadow:0px 0px .3em LightSkyBlue;">[[User:DBigXray|D<span style="color:#DA500B">Big</span>]][[User talk:DBigXray|X<span style="color:#10AD00">ray</span>ᗙ]]</span>'' 07:16, 15 November 2019 (UTC)

:This is a good one. I wonder who broke the story first? [[User:DiplomatTesterMan|DTM]] ([[User talk:DiplomatTesterMan|talk]]) 14:58, 17 November 2019 (UTC)

Is this section trustworthy ? EU Disinfo lab lists itself as an "NGO". Hence making their claim weak. The section looks like towing a pro-Pakistan stance which violates neutrality. Besides user DBigXRay's credibility is doubtful [[User:Thedoctor24|Thedoctor24]] ([[User talk:Thedoctor24|talk]]) 12:28, 12 April 2020 (UTC)

== Why did you delete an entire controversial section with no explanation? ==

{{ping|Lebeka}} [[User talk:Lebeka]] I reverted your [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Fake_news_in_India&diff=941400273&oldid=940860649 blanking] of the section related to CAA with no explanation. Please help explain why it should go? [[User:DiplomatTesterMan|DTM]] ([[User talk:DiplomatTesterMan|talk]]) 10:57, 18 February 2020 (UTC)

== Tagging for issues ==

Article needs copyediting for [[WP:NPOV]] and seems to indulge in [[WP:RECENTISM]]. Not all of these cases pass a [[WP:10YEARTEST]]. [[User:SerChevalerie|SerChevalerie]] ([[User talk:SerChevalerie|talk]]) 16:51, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

:Have removed the tags, but I'm concerned that the entire section for "Examples" is warranting instances of [[WP:RECENTISM]]. There are dozens of fake news cases reported in a year, we shouldn't be covering them all. [[User:SerChevalerie|SerChevalerie]] ([[User talk:SerChevalerie|talk]]) 18:52, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

== So much False Info on this page ==

The sentence quoting NaMo App as Fake news promoting app is a false claim. The App was just developed present People's and Prime Minister Narendra Modi's view on several topics in India.

There is a lot of hatred spreading and misinformation on this page .

The Media houses like India Today generally show the view of Indian National Congress and the Communist Parties in India.

Thus we cannot consider India Today to ge an unbaised source. The Information regarding Anti-Muslim propaganda of BJP is a false claim made by some media houses in India and infact there is a little official evidence that exists to favour some of the small disputes that were in no way related to the party.

Third The BBC,The NDTV has always spread anti-hindu agenda in India.Infact after the Delhi roits BBC,NY Times and Washington Post represented Hindus as the roit provokers although the reality was entirely opposite. [[User:Hmx098amd64|Hmx098amd64]] ([[User talk:Hmx098amd64|talk]]) 20:54, 21 June 2020 (UTC)

:{{u|Hmx098amd64}}, Wikipedia uses only [[WP:RS]]. The content is not disputed unless you can clearly state what is the problematic text. In any case, I am trying to constructively improve the article, so please stop reverting my edits. [[User:SerChevalerie|SerChevalerie]] ([[User talk:SerChevalerie|talk]]) 06:19, 22 June 2020 (UTC)

{{od}} See the problematic text is making the right wing of politics solely responsible for fake news . The article must cover the malpractices of both the sides.

Let me cite some links that are totally a fake news by sources mentioned in this talk:-

https://www.thetruepicture.org/ndtv-the-wire-journalists-fake-news-crpf-pension/

https://www.hindustantimes.com/india/british-hindus-have-lost-faith-in-bbc/story-RUBD1DbhTO3MdlacLnIvYI.html

and also this news article:-

https://www.scoopwhoop.com/NDTV-And-Modi-Cant-Stand-Each-Other-And-Its-Roots-Lie-In-2002/

I admit the fact that there is a lot of fake news spread by right wing faction of politics but at the same time there has been equivalent false reporting at the left front which is not properly covered in the article. These news channels and websites talk of THE RIGHT TO SPEECH but they do not witness the fact that they are able to do so due to much liberal press and media laws in India. The fact is we are covering just one side of the coin and this can lead to misguidance of younger audiences . I do not deny the facts mentioned but i would be happier if the Article gets more balanced [[User:Hmx098amd64|Hmx098amd64]] ([[User talk:Hmx098amd64|talk]]) 11:41, 22 June 2020 (UTC)

:: If you are worried about [[WP:DUE]], please [[WP:DOITYOURSELF]] and stop reverting others' edits, especially when we are trying to address the same concerns that you are. Editors only summarise what [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] state, and the 3 links you shared (of which HT is the only RS) do not mention any other significant POV regarding fake news, they merely state a POV that some have not been happy with what has been published. Finally, my last edit that you reverted was more of a style and grammar cleanup, so I am confused as to why you even reverted it. [[User:SerChevalerie|SerChevalerie]] ([[User talk:SerChevalerie|talk]]) 14:17, 22 June 2020 (UTC)