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Additional words for hurricane formation in sequence but in parenthesis
Since Marco became the third hurricane of the season before Laura did, can I insert a few words in this sentence for a sequential hurricane formation but in parenthesis?
The twelfth named storm, fourth hurricane, and first major hurricane of the record-breaking 2020 Atlantic hurricane season --> The twelfth named storm, fourth hurricane (Marco was third), and first major hurricane of the record-breaking 2020 Atlantic hurricane season
Laura was the strongest hurricane to strike Louisiana since Hurricane Camille of 1969 (which produced category 5 conditions over the southeastern part of the state).
Now I'm kind of curious. I incorporated both the 1856 Last Island hurricane (which is the one we're comparing Laura to) and Hurricane Camille (the one the NHC is comparing Laura to) into the following sentences:
Turning almost due north, Laura made its final landfall near Cameron, Louisiana around 06:00 UTC with 150 mph (240 km/h) winds and a pressure of 939 mbars (27.73 inches). The wind speed made Laura the first Category 4 hurricane to ever hit southwestern Louisiana since the 1856 Last Island hurricane as well as the strongest hurricane to hit the state since Hurricane Camillein1969 (which produced Category 5 conditions over the southeastern portion of the state).
However, I'm still wondering about whether or not we should keep the record in comparison to the 1956 Last Island, the record in comparison to Camille, or both. For me, its both. Thoughts? ChessEric (talk·contribs) 01:31, 1 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Both. Camille produced category 5 conditions in extreme SE Louisiana in unpopulated territory even though there is no listed landfall. Although an argument could be made that it was a landfall on some of the Chandeleur Islands and marshy St. Bernard Parish islands which are all marshlands, it's not listed as such in HURDAT2. CrazyC83 (talk) 03:06, 1 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I feel that the comparison to the 1856 hurricane is trivial and misleading, as you are saying that no other tropical cyclones have impacted the Southwestern Louisana while at Cat 4 intensity since 1856. That means for example that Katrina did not impact Louisana before it made landfall on August 29, 2005 even though it was a Cat 4 barely 5 hours before its first landfall on Lousiana. As a result, I would vote for the strongest tropical cyclone option as it seems more reliable and has not been made up by the media.Jason Rees (talk) 15:46, 1 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Katrina was a cat 3 though at landfall/impact (HURDAT has it at LA3), so it was weaker anyway. The last cat 4 in the state was Betsy but that was at the low end of the category (130 mph vs. 150 mph for Laura). CrazyC83 (talk) 05:38, 2 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@CrazyC83: I'm surprised that I have to say this but we don't define impact as when a system made landfall, since there are so many systems that don't make landfall but still impact land by producing rain etc. As a result, Katrina might have been a C3 at landfall at 11:10 on August 29, but it almost certainly impacted the state while a C4 if not a C5 during August 29. Also, you introducing Betsy to the mix as supposedly the last C4 to impact the state, just shows how poor, trivial and misleading the 1856 record is imo.Jason Rees (talk) 09:45, 2 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Just a note on this topic: the NHC said that Katrina hit Louisiana as a Cat 3. However, they also said cat 4 winds impacted the state before it weakened to cat 3 status.ChessEric (talk·contribs) 19:07, 2 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
At the end of the day @ChessEric: NHC are wrong if they are saying that Katrina hit Louisana as a Cat 3 unless they are referring to its landfall, unless of course the impacts before the landfall on August 29 at 11:10 amazingly don't count. There is a reason why NHC arent shouting about Laura's so called record :)Jason Rees (talk) 21:03, 2 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
