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1 GA Review  
145 comments  


1.1  Review  



1.1.1  Early life and career (18891912)  





1.1.2  Nationalist movement (19121938)  





1.1.3  Nationalist movement (19391947)  





1.1.4  Prime Minister of India (19471964)  





1.1.5  Vision and governing policies  





1.1.6  Sino-Indian War of 1962  





1.1.7  Assassination attempts and security  





1.1.8  Death  





1.1.9  Key cabinet members and associates  





1.1.10  Copyvios  





1.1.11  General comments on the progress of this GA review  





1.1.12  Second opinion  







1.2  Status query  
















Talk:Jawaharlal Nehru/GA1




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< Talk:Jawaharlal Nehru

GA Review[edit]

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Reviewer: DiplomatTesterMan (talk · contribs) 08:50, 12 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

TheWikiholic; I will be taking up this review. I will start out with some initial comments related to the review. This is a long one, and will accordingly phase this as per the article, the nominator you, and my own speed. It is good to see that you have already spent quite some time with this article. DTM (talk) 08:50, 12 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I first want to take up some fundamentals. This may be unsaid, but I would still like to clear it out.
1) Please take note of the way the following are used and presented— References, Notes, Citations, Bibliography, Further reading. I know different GA articles use these terms in different ways, but there is a need for some overall consistency within the article. I have some concern about the way "Bibliography" and "Further reading" is being used.
  • What do the items in Bibliography represent?
  • With regard to "Further reading", you have citations which link to items in "Further reading". Why not leave "Further reading" for items not cited, which readers can pick up if they want to know more? DTM (talk) 12:09, 12 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
According to WP:CITEVAR, this is an editorial decision. I am not telling you how it should be done or what style to use. What I am requesting is that it should be consistent and done knowingly within the article.
2) External links— Please sort out the links. I don't think these (Profile of Nehru in India Today and Nehru on Communalism) need to be there. According to Wikipedia:External links, they could be placed in external links. But why not "Further reading"? Then there will be some consistency within items in "External link", different from above sections.
3) Citation style—
  • Citation 106 unformatted.
 Fixed.— TheWikiholic (talk) 17:29, 26 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Citation 2 and 6 and 323 are articles by online newspapers (TOI, The Hindu, The Telegraph). There should be some consistency between the citation format.
 Fixed. TheWikiholic (talk) 17:38, 13 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Citation 50 and 220. Both point to TOI. However one uses "Times of India" and the other "The Times of India".
 Fixed. TheWikiholic (talk) 17:38, 13 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Citation 54 just says "Congress". Please explain.
 Fixed.— TheWikiholic (talk) 17:29, 26 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Citation 318 is in capitals. Not required.
 Fixed. TheWikiholic (talk) 17:38, 13 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
These are just some opening comments. Please ping me if there are any queries. Accordingly I will start addressing other sections and aspects of the GA review below. Cheers. DTM (talk) 12:09, 12 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Review[edit]

Introduction
 Fixed.— TheWikiholic (talk) 14:09, 17 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
 Fixed.— TheWikiholic (talk) 14:09, 17 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Oh this is for his father Motilal Nehru DTM (talk) 10:22, 15 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
 Fixed.— TheWikiholic (talk) 14:09, 17 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
 Fixed.— TheWikiholic (talk) 14:14, 17 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Infobox

Early life and career (1889–1912)[edit]

Birth and family background
 Fixed.— TheWikiholic (talk) 14:09, 17 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
 Pending The Hindu allows only a certain number of free articles per month, after which subscription is required. Therefore, I think it makes sense to add an access level here, 'limited' or 'subscription'. The access level has not been added as yet. DTM (talk) 06:18, 29 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
 Done.— TheWikiholic (talk) 14:35, 2 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
 Fixed.— TheWikiholic (talk) 14:09, 17 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
 Fixed.— TheWikiholic (talk) 14:09, 17 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
? MaybeAHindustan Times reference has been added now which merely says "Krishna became a noted writer". This is not what I meant when I said TOI reference was inadequate. A better source with something more about Krishan and her writing would be nice; as compared to required. DTM (talk) 06:18, 29 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
 Done A better sourced added.— TheWikiholic (talk) 16:55, 30 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
 Fixed.— TheWikiholic (talk) 12:18, 28 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
 Done.— TheWikiholic (talk) 14:43, 17 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
On reading the next two lines, this makes sense now. DTM (talk) 09:34, 16 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
 Done.— TheWikiholic (talk) 14:43, 17 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Childhood
 Fixed.— TheWikiholic (talk) 13:14, 18 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Youth
Graduation
Advocate practice

Nationalist movement (1912–1938)[edit]

Britain and return to India: 1912–1913
World War I: 1914–1915
 Fixed.— TheWikiholic (talk) 13:15, 18 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
 Pending Is the page number correct? DTM (talk) 06:31, 29 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Home rule movement: 1916–1917
 Fixed.— TheWikiholic (talk) 14:41, 18 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
 Fixed.— TheWikiholic (talk) 17:52, 26 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
No changes were made with regard to this. DTM (talk) 06:31, 29 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
 Fixed.— TheWikiholic (talk) 17:52, 26 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Non-cooperation: 1920–1927
 Done.— TheWikiholic (talk) 14:41, 18 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
 Fixed.— TheWikiholic (talk) 14:41, 18 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
 Partly done Thank you for adding a page number. Does this page adequately cite the text it is placed ahead of? DTM (talk) 06:31, 29 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
 Fixed better source added.— TheWikiholic (talk) 14:47, 2 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
 Fixed.— TheWikiholic (talk) 14:41, 18 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
 Fixed.— TheWikiholic (talk) 14:41, 18 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
 Done.— TheWikiholic (talk) 14:41, 18 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Fundamental Rights and Economic Policy: 1929
 Done.— TheWikiholic (talk) 15:57, 20 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
 Fixed.— TheWikiholic (talk) 18:03, 26 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
 Done.— TheWikiholic (talk) 15:57, 20 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
 Fixed.— TheWikiholic (talk) 13:14, 28 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
 Done.— TheWikiholic (talk) 15:57, 20 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
 Fixed.— TheWikiholic (talk) 01:37, 21 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
 Fixed.— TheWikiholic (talk) 13:29, 28 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

cited. The reference quality could also be improved, further the Pearson Education citation does not reference many details it is placed ahead of.

 Fixed.— TheWikiholic (talk) 01:37, 21 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Salt March: 1930
 Fixed.— TheWikiholic (talk) 01:37, 21 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
 Fixed.— TheWikiholic (talk) 01:37, 21 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
 Fixed.— TheWikiholic (talk) 18:02, 26 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
 Fixed.— TheWikiholic (talk) 01:37, 21 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Electoral politics, Europe, and economics: 1936–1938
 Fixed.— TheWikiholic (talk) 14:40, 21 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Reference text- During the mid-1930s Nehru was much concerned with developments in Europe, which seemed to be drifting towards another war. He was in Europe early in 1936, visiting his ailing wife, shortly before she died in a sanitorium in Switzerland. (pg 108)
Article text- During the mid-1930s, Nehru was very concerned with developments in Europe, which seemed to be drifting toward another world war. He was in Europe in early 1936 visiting his ailing wife shortly before she died in a sanatorium in Switzerland.
 Fixed.— TheWikiholic (talk) 02:55, 28 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
 Fixed.— TheWikiholic (talk) 14:40, 21 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
 Fixed.— TheWikiholic (talk) 14:40, 21 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Reference text- The watershed in his political and economic thinking was his tour of Europe and the Soviet Union during 1926-1927. Nehru's real interest in Marxism and his socialist pattern of thought stem from that tour, even though it did not appreciably increase his knowledge of Communist theory and practice. His subsequent sojurns in prisons enabled him to study Marxism in more depth. Interested in its ideas, but repelled by some of its methods, he could never bring himself to accept Karl Marx's writings as revealed scripture. Yet from then on, the yardstick of his economic thinking remained Marxist, adjusted, where necessary, to Indian conditions. (pg 107)
Article text- Nehru's visit to Europe in 1936 proved to be the watershed in his political and economic thinking. His real interest in Marxism and his socialist pattern of thought stem from that tour. His later sojourns in prison enabled him to study Marxism in more depth. Interested in its ideas but repelled by some of its methods, he could never bring himself to accept Karl Marx's writings as revealed scripture. Yet from then on, the yardstick of his economic thinking remained Marxist, adjusted, where necessary, to Indian conditions.
 Fixed.— TheWikiholic (talk) 01:15, 29 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
 Partly done Parts of this remain raising the issue of close paraphrasing - he could never bring himself to accept Karl Marx's writings as revealed scripture. DTM (talk) 06:59, 29 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
This has been rewritten a few days ago. Please have a look again.TheWikiholic (talk) 13:02, 6 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
 Fixed.— TheWikiholic (talk) 14:40, 21 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
 Fixed.— TheWikiholic (talk) 14:40, 21 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
 Done.— TheWikiholic (talk) 14:40, 21 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
 Done.— TheWikiholic (talk) 14:40, 21 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Nationalist movement (1939–1947)[edit]

 Fixed.— TheWikiholic (talk) 15:03, 21 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
 Partly done Why would you keep the Disha Publications reference when it does not cite the line? The reference you have added, Samanta, has no page number. It is a 164 page reference. A page number helps. DTM (talk) 06:38, 29 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
 Fixed.— TheWikiholic (talk) 16:57, 30 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
 Done.— TheWikiholic (talk) 15:03, 21 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
 Fixed.— TheWikiholic (talk) 15:03, 21 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
 Fixed.— TheWikiholic (talk) 15:03, 21 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Civil disobedience, Lahore Resolution, August Offer: 1940
 Fixed.— TheWikiholic (talk) 15:26, 21 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
 Done.— TheWikiholic (talk) 15:26, 21 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
 Fixed.— TheWikiholic (talk) 15:59, 28 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Japan attacks India, Cripps' mission, Quit India: 1942
 Done.— TheWikiholic (talk) 14:26, 3 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
 Done.— TheWikiholic (talk) 14:26, 3 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
 Done.— TheWikiholic (talk) 14:26, 3 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
 Done.— TheWikiholic (talk) 12:59, 6 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
In prison 1943–1945
 Done.— TheWikiholic (talk) 12:59, 6 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
 Fixed.— TheWikiholic (talk) 15:36, 13 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
 Fixed.— TheWikiholic (talk) 15:36, 13 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Cabinet mission, Interim government 1946–1947
 Fixed.— TheWikiholic (talk) 08:02, 7 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
 Fixed.— TheWikiholic (talk) 08:02, 7 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
 Fixed.— TheWikiholic (talk) 08:02, 7 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Prime Minister of India (1947–1964)[edit]

 Fixed. TheWikiholic (talk) 09:00, 7 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Republicanism
  • Ok, so continuing from above, this is now a clear case of copyvio/close paraphrasing. Three lines have been picked up- In July 1946, Nehru pointedly observed ... would be treated as an enemy state.
 Fixed. TheWikiholic (talk) 09:00, 7 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
 Not done Changing references but keeping the text the same does not address the copvio/close paraphrasing identified! DTM (talk) 06:06, 9 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
DiplomatTesterMan I think it was a case where the reference was copied text from Wikipedia. That is why I didn't remove the content even though I replaced the source.— TheWikiholic (talk) 15:01, 9 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
 Fixed. TheWikiholic (talk) 09:00, 7 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
 Fixed. TheWikiholic (talk) 09:00, 7 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
 Fixed. TheWikiholic (talk) 09:00, 7 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Independence, Dominion of India: 1946–1950
 Done.— TheWikiholic (talk) 09:34, 12 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
 Fixed. TheWikiholic (talk) 15:20, 13 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
 Fixed. TheWikiholic (talk) 15:20, 13 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
 Done.— TheWikiholic (talk) 09:34, 12 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
 Done.— TheWikiholic (talk) 09:34, 12 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
 Fixed.— TheWikiholic (talk) 09:34, 12 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Yes.— TheWikiholic (talk) 09:34, 12 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
 Done.— TheWikiholic (talk) 09:34, 12 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
 Done.— TheWikiholic (talk) 09:34, 12 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
 Done.— TheWikiholic (talk) 09:34, 12 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
 Fixed.— TheWikiholic (talk) 16:45, 21 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Election of 1952
 Done.— TheWikiholic (talk) 14:37, 13 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
 Done.— TheWikiholic (talk) 14:37, 13 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
First term as Prime Minister: 1952–1957
 Done.— TheWikiholic (talk) 14:37, 13 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
 Fixed TheWikiholic (talk) 14:37, 13 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
 Done.— TheWikiholic (talk) 16:45, 21 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Subsequent elections: 1957, 1962
 Done.— TheWikiholic (talk) 16:45, 21 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
 Done.— TheWikiholic (talk) 16:45, 21 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Popularity
 Done.— TheWikiholic (talk) 03:26, 26 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
 Done.— TheWikiholic (talk) 03:26, 26 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
 Done.— TheWikiholic (talk) 03:26, 26 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
 Done.— TheWikiholic (talk) 03:26, 26 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Vision and governing policies[edit]

 Done.— TheWikiholic (talk) 03:27, 26 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
 Done.— TheWikiholic (talk) 03:27, 26 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
 Done.— TheWikiholic (talk) 03:27, 26 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Economic policies
Agriculture policies
Social policies
 Fixed.— TheWikiholic (talk) 03:54, 7 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
 Done.— TheWikiholic (talk) 03:54, 7 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
 Done.— TheWikiholic (talk) 03:54, 7 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
 Fixed.— TheWikiholic (talk) 03:54, 7 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
 Done.— TheWikiholic (talk) 04:35, 7 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
 Done.— TheWikiholic (talk) 04:35, 7 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Foreign policy
 Fixed.— TheWikiholic (talk) 04:35, 7 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
 Done.— TheWikiholic (talk) 04:35, 7 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
 Done.— TheWikiholic (talk) 04:35, 7 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sino-Indian War of 1962[edit]

Assassination attempts and security[edit]

Death[edit]

Key cabinet members and associates[edit]

Copyvios[edit]

Earwigs catches the following:

 Fixed.— TheWikiholic (talk) 13:31, 28 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

DTM (talk) 10:20, 15 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

General comments on the progress of this GA review[edit]

TheWikiholic, hi. Do you have any comments about how this review is progressing? DTM (talk) 09:50, 22 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, no comments. You are doing a wonderful job. I know Nehru is a huge topic and the article is quite the undertaking. Thank you for taking the time to review the article. I look forward to more comments and suggestions and hope that we can get it to pass in the end.— TheWikiholic (talk) 14:58, 22 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Can you please complete the above review comments. Some comments have not been addressed, despite the 'done' and 'fixed' templates. Please don't introduce new issues such as bare urls. I will give you some time to complete this, after which I will review the above points again as per GA requirements, and then we can move on to new sections. DTM (talk) 12:48, 26 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I have added some comments above with 'Maybe', 'Partly Done' and 'Pending' templates. (There are way too many templates being used, but that is another issue...) Irrespective of the remaining work to be done on the reviewed sections, I will be continuing with the review. DTM (talk) 10:56, 30 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Second opinion[edit]

Going by the above review progress, there are sure to be a few more cases of close paraphrasing, referencing sources that have been copied from Wikipedia etc. While the review is not complete, I am not failing this outright and asking for a second opinion. DTM (talk) 02:48, 9 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 16:53, 18 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@DiplomatTesterMan, How is this one going? – Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 07:23, 14 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Status query[edit]

DTM, TheWikiholic, where does this nomination stand? TheWikiholic, I don't see any attempt to address the issues raised in the partial second opinion by Kavyansh.Singh, even as the original review—ten listed sections are blank—and a potential second opinion are both incomplete. In a few days, the review will be four months old; if there isn't additional work done soon, perhaps it should be closed. Thank you. BlueMoonset (talk) 05:10, 9 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@TheWikiholic: I also think this should be closed. There is also conversation from this year emerging on the talk page that needs to be addressed. DTM (talk) 13:39, 9 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
No objection to closing. Will fix these issues later. Thank you DTM and Kavyans Singh for your time. I really appreciated it. Regards.— TheWikiholic (talk) 04:40, 13 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
DTM, as official reviewer, it is most appropriate for you to close the review as unsuccessful. If you aren't able to do so in the next seven days, I will do so for you. BlueMoonset (talk) 01:56, 16 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Seven days having passed, I have now closed the review as unsuccessful. BlueMoonset (talk) 04:09, 24 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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