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The title ("The Personal Jewel Collection of Elizabeth II") seems to have been taken from the title of a book (''The Queen's Jewels: The Personal Collection of Elizabeth II'') written by Leslie Field in 1987. As the collection does not have a proper name, the title should be in [[sentence case]] per [[WP:NCCAPS]], but since it isn't even the [[WP:COMMONNAME]] (word for word) and shouldn't begin with [[WP:THE]], I propose shortening the title to "Elizabeth II's jewels". Others have expressed doubts over the title, so I'm going to [[WP:MOVE]] the article now because I don't think it is controversial enough to merit discussion... [[User:Firebrace|Firebrace]] ([[User talk:Firebrace|talk]]) 21:51, 26 December 2015 (UTC) |
The title ("The Personal Jewel Collection of Elizabeth II") seems to have been taken from the title of a book (''The Queen's Jewels: The Personal Collection of Elizabeth II'') written by Leslie Field in 1987. As the collection does not have a proper name, the title should be in [[sentence case]] per [[WP:NCCAPS]], but since it isn't even the [[WP:COMMONNAME]] (word for word) and shouldn't begin with [[WP:THE]], I propose shortening the title to "Elizabeth II's jewels". Others have expressed doubts over the title, so I'm going to [[WP:MOVE]] the article now because I don't think it is controversial enough to merit discussion... [[User:Firebrace|Firebrace]] ([[User talk:Firebrace|talk]]) 21:51, 26 December 2015 (UTC) |
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== Tiaras == |
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'George 111 Fringe Tiara' appears to be an anomaly when the article goes on to state that the piece was commissioned in 1830 as George 111 died in 1820. Either the name of the tiara is wrong or the date of its commissioning is. [[User:Len of Essex|Len of Essex]] ([[User talk:Len of Essex|talk]]) 07:21, 24 April 2016 (UTC) |
'George 111 Fringe Tiara' appears to be an anomaly when the article goes on to state that the piece was commissioned in 1830 as George 111 died in 1820. Either the name of the tiara is wrong or the date of its commissioning is. [[User:Len of Essex|Len of Essex]] ([[User talk:Len of Essex|talk]]) 07:21, 24 April 2016 (UTC) |
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:The tiara was made using diamonds that had belonged to George III (unlike the Queen Mary Fringe Tiara, which wasn't). [[User:Firebrace|Firebrace]] ([[User talk:Firebrace|talk]]) 12:56, 31 May 2016 (UTC) |
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Can we use a better image for the Vladimir? this is a bit more detailed; perhaps it could be cropped to remove the overly Canadian elements as well as make it a bit smaller. Thoughts? — [ roux ] [x] 13:52, 16 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Though not strictly pertinent to the main article many of the images have notable characters in them, such as the first Duke of Wellington (the godfather of the child in the picture) on the first picture of the page. Should these be added to the captions? 129.67.17.233 (talk) 17:48, 16 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
No estimates of the value of the jewels come at anywhere near £1000 trillion, and ten times this would be the entire GDP of the UK for 5 millenniums assuming it was at the current level throughout that time. Anyone got a good reliable estimate? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.29.243.80 (talk) 20:58, 12 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Princess Marina was presented with a tiara from the Lord Mayor and citizens of London. It was presented to her as a wedding gift and was passed down through her family. Her daughter Princess Alexandra wore the tiara to her wedding and it is now in the possession of Princess Michael of Kent, NOT Queen Elizabeth II. The tiara mentioned here incorrectly, which was her mothers Grand Duchess Elena Vladimirovna of Russia, was passed down to her other daughter, which you can clearly see she is wearing in her wedding photo Princess Elizabeth of Greece and Denmark..etc. That Romanov tiara is now in the possession of Archduchess Helene of Austria, daughter of Princess Elizabeth of Greece and Denmark and her husband, Carl Theodor, Count of Toerring-Jettenbach. Duchess of Kent tiara The information comes from this site and another source listed here; this excerpt is from the Orient-Express Magazine-Volume 14, published in 1997, "On her marriage to the Duke of Kent in 1934, Princess Marina of Greece wore a diamond tiara, right, which was a wedding gift from lite City of London and was almost identical to the George III fringe tiara, later worn by the Princess Elizabeth" (later Queen Elizabeth). -- Lady Meg (talk) 21:07, 14 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Please tidy up link and add more information as it becomes known. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.24.135.176 (talk) 14:57, 29 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The tiara which Queen Mary passed on to the Queen Mother which was worn at the present Queen's wedding and Princess Anne's is NOT the George III Fringe Tiara according to the Official Royal Collection site.
"This tiara (which can also be worn as a necklace) was made for Queen Mary in 1919. It is not, as has sometimes been claimed, made with diamonds that had belonged to George III but re-uses diamonds taken from a necklace/tiara purchased by Queen Victoria from Collingwood & Co as a wedding present for Queen Mary in 1893. In August 1936 Queen Mary gave the tiara to Queen Elizabeth, from whom it was borrowed by Princess Elizabeth for her wedding in 1947." -- The Royal Collection © 2008, Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II RCIN 200184
Please see: Royal Wedding Collection -- Lady Meg (talk) 00:06, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I updated the "Gloucester Jewels" section using the source Leslie Field's The Queen's Jewels, published in 1987. There were two separate turquoise parures put together by Queen Mary; one given to Princess Alice, Duchess of Gloucester and the other given to Princess Margaret (sister of the Queen). I re-did the section and took out several of the "Other pieces given to the Duchess of Gloucester that not much is known about most likely they are pieces commissioned by her husband" as all but two are listed in the book, pg 158 as part of the original suite given to Princess Alice. These two statements were also taken out:
I'm also wondering why these are even listed on "The Personal Jewel Collection of Elizabeth II" when she does not own them and never has! They should probably be moved to the pages of the women who received them. -- Lady Meg (talk) 02:56, 14 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Why is jewellery belonging to the Gloucesters and Princess Margaret listed in an article about "the personal jewellery collection of Elizabeth II"? It would be a shame to remove these sections, as they are quite in depth and well sourced, but they really don't belong here. Any suggestions? Sotakeit (talk) 15:35, 22 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
The title ("The Personal Jewel Collection of Elizabeth II") seems to have been taken from the title of a book (The Queen's Jewels: The Personal Collection of Elizabeth II) written by Leslie Field in 1987. As the collection does not have a proper name, the title should be in sentence case per WP:NCCAPS, but since it isn't even the WP:COMMONNAME (word for word) and shouldn't begin with WP:THE, I propose shortening the title to "Elizabeth II's jewels". Others have expressed doubts over the title, so I'm going to WP:MOVE the article now because I don't think it is controversial enough to merit discussion... Firebrace (talk) 21:51, 26 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
'George 111 Fringe Tiara' appears to be an anomaly when the article goes on to state that the piece was commissioned in 1830 as George 111 died in 1820. Either the name of the tiara is wrong or the date of its commissioning is. Len of Essex (talk) 07:21, 24 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]