:Uh, no, I don't think that's a good idea. Grissom, White and Chaffee were put with the flight crews because their case is different from the others in that they were actually assigned to an iminently planned flight, and made it to within one month of their scheduled launch. The others might have been put on the flight roster, but never made it that far. They were removed from it due to factors such as their own performance (Cooper), the delay caused by the Apollo 13 failure, and the cancellation of the last missions. The only thing that kept Grissom, White and Chaffee from flying was that their spacecraft killed them. [[User:JustinTime55|JustinTime55]] ([[User talk:JustinTime55|talk]]) 19:22, 24 September 2012 (UTC)
:Uh, no, I don't think that's a good idea. Grissom, White and Chaffee were put with the flight crews because their case is different from the others in that they were actually assigned to an iminently planned flight, and made it to within one month of their scheduled launch. The others might have been put on the flight roster, but never made it that far. They were removed from it due to factors such as their own performance (Cooper), the delay caused by the Apollo 13 failure, and the cancellation of the last missions. The only thing that kept Grissom, White and Chaffee from flying was that their spacecraft killed them. [[User:JustinTime55|JustinTime55]] ([[User talk:JustinTime55|talk]]) 19:22, 24 September 2012 (UTC)
:P.S.: There's also no evidence Givens was assigned to a prime crew; he was on the Apollo 7 ''support'' crew, which did not necessarily put him in the rotation as a backup crew slot might have. [[User:JustinTime55|JustinTime55]] ([[User talk:JustinTime55|talk]]) 19:29, 24 September 2012 (UTC)
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User:Daran just redirected "men who walked..." here. --Menchi 01:39, 27 Sep 2003 (UTC)
Can this page include a discussion and/or link to a discussion about contraversey surrounding the authenticity of the US landing on the moon - the political ramifications of the landing, and the space race?
Left earth orbit? Why doesn't the moon just fly off into space, then? XD
Was there actually an Apollo 21 flight scheduled? I have always read the series was originally to end with Apollo 20, until 18, 19, & 20 got axed. --Matthew00:59, 7 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I don't see any relevance to the age today column under People who have walked on the Moon. I suggest that it be removed. -- Mufka (u)(t)(c)14:13, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I removed the "USN" label on Neil Armstrong's entry in the list because he was a civilian when he joined the astronaut corps. Other such astronauts' entries likely need to be fixed, too. YLee (talk) 07:24, 6 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I have twice reverted Engology's edits describing the 12 astronauts who've walked on the moon as "Engineers." I object due to the following reasons:
Inaccuracy. Harrison Schmitt is a geologist by training, not an engineer. Yes, I know there is such a thing as engineering geology, but there is no evidence Schmitt has ever worked in or studied that field.
Irrelevance. Of course the other 11 astronauts were (trained as) engineers, as an engineering degree was required to be a member of all of the early astronaut classes (except Schmitt and other scientist-astronauts). One might as well also say that they were all previous or active-duty of the United States military, or four-year college graduates.
Misplacement. Even if all 12 moonwalkers were engineers, this fact really wouldn't belong in the summary paragraph, anyway; it'd be better suited to the section specifically discussing them. YLee (talk) 13:14, 20 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Now I see that Engology is systematically adding "an Engineer" to the summary sections of every moonwalker's article. This seems very dubious to me. While, as I note above, all of the 12 moonwalkers (again, except Schmitt) received engineering degrees, to describe all of them as "Engineers" (complete with capitalization) the lead sentence—even before "astronaut"—does not seem proper. Alan Bean, for example, retired from NASA in order to become a professional artist, but that isn't mentioned in the summary section at all! YLee (talk) 13:40, 20 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, Astronaut Harrison Schmitt is a geologist and this entry was an error. You seem to think that it is OK for him to be referred to as a Geologist in the lead in, but it is NOT OK for other Astronauts to be referred to as Engineers in the lead in. Where is the consistency? You reverting these edits for no good reason is disruptive and responding to personal whims. I am quite entitled to add the word *Engineer* considering it is OK to include the words, Geologist, Physician, Physicist, Astronaut, etc., in lead ins. Alan Bean is not yet an Artist, so it would not be appropriate to add it as an entry for now. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Engology (talk • contribs) 21:34, 24 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
An engineering degree != Engineer as a profession. The lede sentence should describe the person in the most accurate and relevant way. If someone who has a BS in Engineering but never worked as an engineer, never held the title of engineer, was never certifed as a professional enginer - it would be misleading to refer to them as an "Engineer". Rillian (talk) 14:37, 25 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
By that logic, the thousands of people with journalism degrees who never worked as a journalist are somehow still "Journalists" (capital J and all). Engineering is a profession, not just a degree. Rillian (talk) 02:57, 28 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I hope I'm a good feminist, really I do. But at the end of the day, they were all men. The "human", "people" business is simply ridiculous and beings to grate after a while. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.7.50.67 (talk) 07:41, 16 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Is The Apollo Effort Being American In Origin Worthy Of Inclusion On This Page??
I am quite surprised to find that there is not a single reference on this entire page about the fact that the Apollo series of missions were American in origin, design and execution. Don't you think this fact deserves some recognition on this page, at least in the opening paragraph?
If and when the Chinese, Indians, Japanese or any other natioality successfully fly and return their astronauts to the moon, I am SURE Wikipedia will mention their nationality. So why not give these brave Americans the credit their incredible (and and after 42 years, unmatched) accomplishment deserves? It's hardly a violation of the so-called "global perspective" Wikipedia strives to adhere to for us to point out that every human thus far who has ever walked upon earth's satellite has been an American. Right? Thanks122.26.51.203 (talk) 15:46, 21 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Apollo astronauts who flew to the Moon without landing
In this section, the text says that 12 people have been close to the Moon without landing, however the table lists 14 people. I assume that the table is correct and the text wrong, but I don't want to make the edit, because I don't know the factual accuracy here. What worries me is that the Saturn V page was just edited to change the total number of people flown to the Moon from 24 to 26[1] so there is something wrong here. Can someone who is sure about this make the necessary edit? Thanks! --MarkPos(User Page | Talk | Contribs)10:24, 26 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I just noticed that the 3rd paragraph of the article says "twenty-four" people have visited the moon implying 12 who landed and 12 who orbited, so I'm even more confused about the 14 people listed in the table. --MarkPos(User Page | Talk | Contribs)10:31, 26 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
12 people went to the moon but never landed. The 14 people in the table include Young and Cernan, who did not land on their first flight to the Moon, but landed on later flights. --Zundark (talk) 10:42, 26 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I've changed the table to just number the twelve who never landed. Hopefully this is clearer. (If not, it probably wants to be 15, so that it adds up to 27 - I've seen 14 quoted elsewhere, which confused the hell out of me.) Antrim Kate (talk) 19:03, 22 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Move Grissom to a different section?
Should Grissom be moved from "From the Mercury Seven" section to "Other astronauts who trained for Apollo"? Same thing for White and Chaffee. There were others who were assigned as prime crewmembers but did not fly, and are listed in the lower section. Bubba73You talkin' to me?05:02, 21 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Uh, no, I don't think that's a good idea. Grissom, White and Chaffee were put with the flight crews because their case is different from the others in that they were actually assigned to an iminently planned flight, and made it to within one month of their scheduled launch. The others might have been put on the flight roster, but never made it that far. They were removed from it due to factors such as their own performance (Cooper), the delay caused by the Apollo 13 failure, and the cancellation of the last missions. The only thing that kept Grissom, White and Chaffee from flying was that their spacecraft killed them. JustinTime55 (talk) 19:22, 24 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
P.S.: There's also no evidence Givens was assigned to a prime crew; he was on the Apollo 7 support crew, which did not necessarily put him in the rotation as a backup crew slot might have. JustinTime55 (talk) 19:29, 24 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]