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== Link Dump == |
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* [https://journals.aps.org/pr/abstract/10.1103/PhysRev.117.306 Detection and Generation of Gravitational Waves (1960)] |
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* [https://einstein.stanford.edu/content/sci_papers/papers/1961_SU_Relativity_Conf.pdf NASA relativity conference (1961)] |
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* [https://www.google.co.uk/books/edition/NASA_Technical_Memorandum/3_q3sdyRHDQC Apollo science technical memorandum (1964)] |
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* [https://journals.aps.org/prl/abstract/10.1103/PhysRevLett.25.180 Observation of the Thermal Fluctuations of a Gravitational-Wave Detector (1966)] |
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* [https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/4043226 Testing Gravimeters for Lunar Surface Measurements (1968)] |
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* [https://journals.aps.org/prl/abstract/10.1103/PhysRevLett.20.1307 Gravitational-Wave-Detector Events (1968)] |
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* [https://journals.aps.org/prl/abstract/10.1103/PhysRevLett.22.1320 Evidence for Discovery of Gravitational Radiation (1969)] |
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* [https://journals.aps.org/prl/abstract/10.1103/PhysRevLett.17.1228 Anisotropy and Polarization in the Gravitational-Radiation Experiments (1970)] |
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* [https://www.jstor.org/stable/24927792 The Detection of Gravitational Waves (1971)] |
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===Technical Docs=== |
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[https://repository.hou.usra.edu/bitstream/handle/20.500.11753/629/31111000673440.pdf] |
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===Contemporaneous or post experiment details=== |
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* [https://core.ac.uk/download/pdf/10309518.pdf Apollo 17 Prelim. Sci. Rept. Chap 12. Lunar Surface Gravimeter Experiment (1973)] |
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* [https://ui.adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/1978PhDT.........5T/abstract The Lunar Surface Gravimeter and the Search for Gravitational Radiation.] - The only PhD thesis written about the experiment from those who operated. |
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* [https://nyaspubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1749-6632.1973.tb41443.x GRAVITATIONAL RADIATION DETECTION EXPERIMENTS WITH DISC-SHAPED AND CYLINDRICAL ANTENNAE AND THE LUNAR SURFACE GRAVIMETER (1973) |
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===Re-evaluations and retrospectives=== |
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* [https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/earth-and-planetary-sciences/apollo-lunar-surface-experiments-package Apollo Lunar Surface Experiments Package - Treatise on Geophysics (Second Edition) (2015)] |
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* [https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/epdf/10.1002/2014JE004724 Lunar Surface Gravimeter as a lunar seismometer:Investigation of a new source of seismicinformation on the Moon (2015)] - Kawamura |
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* [https://www.researchgate.net/publication/42794933_The_Lunar_Surface_Gravimeter_as_a_Lunar_Seismograph The Lunar Surface Gravimeter as a Lunar Seismograph (2008)] - Kawamura |
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* [https://www.mdpi.com/2218-1997/2/3/22#B24-universe-02-00022 A Brief History of Gravitational Waves (2016)] |
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* [https://journals.aps.org/prl/abstract/10.1103/PhysRevLett.129.071102 Seismic Background Limitation of Lunar Gravitational-Wave Detectors (2022)] |
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* [https://arxiv.org/pdf/2309.15160.pdf Opportunities and limits of lunar gravitational-wave detection (2023)] |
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* [https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11214-023-01015-4 Lunar Gravitational-Wave Detection (2023)] |
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* [https://link.springer.com/article/10.1140/epjh/e2016-70060-5 Virginia Trimble #1 paper] |
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* [https://www.worldscientific.com/doi/abs/10.1142/S0218271818300094 Virginia Trimble #2 paper] |
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===Future experiments=== |
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* [https://ntrs.nasa.gov/api/citations/20210026530/downloads/Research%20Campaign%20Lunar%20Gravitational-wave%20Antenna.pdf LGWA] |
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* [https://ntrs.nasa.gov/api/citations/20210025418/downloads/White%20Paper%20Topical%20Lunar%20Gravitational.pdf All lunar detectors] |
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'''[[User:Seddon|Seddon]]''' <sup>[[User talk:Seddon|talk]]</sup> 00:01, 29 March 2024 (UTC) |
Lunar Surface Gravimeter has been listed as one of the Natural sciences good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it. Review: April 19, 2024. (Reviewed version). |
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A fact from Lunar Surface Gravimeter appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 30 January 2024 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:
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The result was: promotedbyDirtyHarry991 talk 00:14, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Created by Seddon (talk). Self-nominated at 03:21, 4 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be loggedatTemplate talk:Did you know nominations/Lunar Surface Gravimeter; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
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Nominator: Seddon (talk · contribs)
Reviewer: Kusma (talk · contribs) 11:26, 24 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Reserving. —Kusma (talk) 11:26, 24 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
First pass through the text done. —Kusma (talk) 17:26, 24 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Source checks to follow. —Kusma (talk) 17:26, 24 March 2024 (UTC) Looking at Special:Permanentlink/1213425741.[reply]
An interesting article about an experiment that was apparently supposed to be one of the superstars of Apollo 17 science. I am not fully convinced it is Good: it is sourced mostly to 1970s NASA or Weber reports and is somewhat lacking in broadness. It needs some work, but it should be possible to improve it fairly quickly. Will put on hold. —Kusma (talk) 20:36, 24 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Despite teams ... Despite the setbacktry not to start two consecutive sentences with "despite"
the alleged observations seen by themnot sure about the WTW here; "claimed" (though also a WTW) might be better than "alleged". "Seen by them" is slightly anthropomorphising the Weber bars; is there a better word?
Four geophysics teams for the Apollo lunar surface exploration program were proposed by Willis Foster, Director of the Office of Manned Space Science in 1964 which included one dedicated to gravimetry consisting of Joseph Weber and Gordon J. F. MacDonald who was at that time at University of California, Los Angelesthis is a bit convoluted and would benefit from splitting
the flight article [...] was responsible for the flight hardware's electronicsI don't get this.
Concerns were raised by Marshall Space Flight Center about whether the experiment could be delivered by July 1972.but it was?
Rather than being integrated at Bendix with the rest of the ALSEP experiments, integration of the experiment was done at Kennedy Space Center.what does "integration" mean here?
The instrument is a gravimeteryou use past tense most of the time, why not here?
not sufficiently heavy enoughthe Department of Redundancy Department says hi; cut either "sufficiently" or "enough".
applying a small amount of forforce?
the heater was manually commanded to cycle the instrument returned to its operational temperaturesomething is wrong here
The experiments researchers from University of Maryland explained that this was due to an arithmetic error, known by the manufacturers La Coste and Romberg, resulting in balance weights that were insufficient for use in the Moon's gravity and unable to provide the necessary adjustments to the instrument's sensor.several issues. "experiments researchers" grammar. "this was due" what is "this"? Do the people from Maryland claim that La Coste and Romberg knew the instrument was faulty? did the weights have too much or too little mass? why would weights provide adjustments?
very little seismic activities and but the frequency bands that are suitable for the study of gravitational waves exhibit levels of noise orders of magnitudes lower than on Earthsomething is wrong here.
Areas [...] are thermally stable which reduce any sensor noise cause by thermal variability.various grammar issues here
they also happen to be some of the coldest locations in the solar systemI find that difficult to believe; somehere out in the Kuiper Belt there must be lots of colder places?
Two experiments that would study the theorised responses of a planetary body to gravitational waves were proposed in response to ESAESA isn't a question. Also, would these experiments also live on the Moon?
leverage an array of highly sensitive seismometers into to assessinto to?
I am much happier with the broadness and content now, but there is quite a lot of copyediting needed. I think I'll have another look at sources when you are done with copyediting. —Kusma (talk) 19:42, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Time to review the lead section!
Overall I am much happier now. I do have two more questions that could be addressed in lead and body (sorry):
I'll have another look at sourcing soon and then we should be close to the finish line. —Kusma (talk) 20:13, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Rather than being integrated at Bendix with the rest of the ALSEP experiments, integration of the experiment was done at Kennedy Space Center.what does "integration" mean here?
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Seddon talk 00:01, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]