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This article was nominated for deletion on 11 October 2007. The result of the discussion was no consensus.

This article is being created as part of a class at Washington University in St. Louis. More will be added over the next few months, but please feel free to edit it.

--Sphmiel 02:35, 1 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Please have a look at Wikipedia:Guide_to_writing_better_articles this page needs some serious attention. It's structure is way off and it lacks references. The tabulation of responses is good for an essay but bad for an encyclopedia article, views should be summarized and links to other articles should be made via summary style. Drop me a line if you have any questions--Cailil ^talk 00:38, 15 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This section overflows with POV language. Then very conflation of the men's rights position and "the claim that men are naturally superior to women" is an outright slander against the men's rights circles. "Unfortunately" in the last sentence is a value judgement. I will now try to clean it up a bit as a quick fix, but the section needs a thorough rewrite.

Rulatir (talk) 17:04, 25 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

To see the bug, open the article and search for text "This view actually reinforced", without quotes. In the rendered article, this text appears directly in the『Profeminist men’s response to ‘men’s rights’』section. Now if you try to edit the section, you can see that in the source the fragment between "This view actually reinforced" and "a backlash from women and men alike" appears in a different section, way below where it shows in the rendered page, with several sections in between. (Placed in the wrong context, the fragment appears so POV that I wanted to delete it, and that's how I discovered the bug).

Verified not to be a browser problem by checking in Opera, Firefox and Konqueror.

Rulatir (talk) 17:23, 25 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]