Talk:Merit badge (Boy Scouts of America): Difference between revisions

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== Dates ==

Looking at revision dates, I think there was a lot of confusion between requirement dates and pamphlet dates, so I added the column on pamphlets. The BSA just added a list of pamphlets, so I went with those dates. In fact, the BSA site now has listings for all of the Boy Scout requirements. The table is now sortable- just click on the icon in the top row. --[[User:Gadget850|Gadget850 (Ed)]] 10:54, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

:Good catch on the dates. They only change the requirements about once every 5 years. COOL SORTING!. I didn't know that could be done in wiki.[[User:Rlevse|Rlevse]] 11:35, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

See [[Help:Sorting]] for more info on sorting. Full dates need special formatting. --[[User:Gadget850|Gadget850 (Ed)]] 12:06, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

== Former Eagle required ==

If we are going to start noting the merit badges formerly required for Eagle, there are going to be a lot of notes. For example, Cooking, Bird Study, Pioneering, Athletics, Nature, Soil and Water Conservation, Safety and more were all once required. The scope of the article is on the current requirements. --[[User:Gadget850|Gadget850 (Ed)]] 13:00, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

::Agree with Gadget, the person that made those entries only noted more recent ones. The list of former requireds is VERY long, going all the way back to 1910.[[User:Rlevse|Rlevse]] 13:22, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

== Images- old and new ==

Some merit badges have two images. Aviation, Journalism, Nuclear Science and Railroading looks like they have both an older and a redesigned badge; Cycling, Family Life, Safety and Sports have images with the green border and with the silver border. Again, within the scope of this article, these should use the current images. --[[User:Gadget850|Gadget850 (Ed)]] 13:38, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

== Images in lists ==

As noted at [[WT:SCOUT#Image use]], we should not use images in lists. We don't have articles on most of these badges, so we don't have anywhere to use these images. --—<i><b>—&nbsp;[[User:Gadget850|<font color = "gray">Gadget850&nbsp;(Ed)</font>]]<font color = "darkblue">&nbsp;^{[[User talk:Gadget850|''talk'']]}</font></b> - </i> 11:11, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

:Concur. <span style="font-family: verdana;"> — [[User:Rlevse|<span style="color:#060;">'''''R''levse'''</span>]] • [[User_talk:Rlevse|<span style="color:#990;">Talk</span>]] • </span> 11:35, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

==Someone earns all 121 badges==

[http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-ap-mi-scoutshonors,0,4565874.story], a story I noticed in the Chicago Tribune about "LINCOLN PARK, Mich. - An 18-year-old from Lincoln Park is being honored for earning all of the Boy Scouts' 121 merit badges." The article claims he's the first to do so since the Scouts founding in 1910. Thought someone might want to add this somehow.[[User:Heironymous Rowe|Heironymous Rowe]] ([[User talk:Heironymous Rowe|talk]]) 03:32, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

:One of 70 known Scouts who have earned all merit badges, including Michael Arsenault who earned 131 in 1993.[http://www.meritbadgeknot.com/registry.htm] --—<i><b>—&nbsp;[[User:Gadget850|<font color = "gray">Gadget850&nbsp;(Ed)</font>]]<font color = "darkblue">&nbsp;^{[[User talk:Gadget850|''talk'']]}</font></b> - </i> 21:49, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

::Yeah...somebody earning all the Merit Badges really isn't news/notable anymore '''''[[User talk:Purplebackpack89#top|<font color="#660066">Purpleback</font>]][[User:Purplebackpack89|<font color="#000000">pack</font>]][[User:Purplebackpack89/C|<font color="gold">89</font>]]<font color="#FF9900">≈≈≈≈</font>''''' 22:38, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

==Title==

I'd like to propose moving [[Merit badge (Boy Scouts of America)]]] to [[List of merit badges in the Boy Scouts of America]] and [[History of merit badges (Boy Scouts of America)]] to [[merit badges in the Boy Scouts of America]]. I think these titles are more typical for Wikipedia and are more on-topic. [[User:TUF-KAT|Tuf-Kat]] ([[User talk:TUF-KAT|talk]]) 22:37, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

*Opposed to the history one. This article is specifically about the history (evolution) of the badges, not MBs in general. If you look at the FACs on this article, you'll find a lot of talk about the article title and this is the one settled on. Don't care about the first one.<span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> — [[User:Rlevse|<b style="color:#060;"><i>R</i>levse</b>]] • [[User_talk:Rlevse|<span style="color:#990;">Talk</span>]] • </span> 23:13, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

== For the table ==

How about coloring the boxes for required MBs in <font color=silver>silver</font color>? [[User:Purplebackpack89|Purplebackpack89]] ([[User talk:Purplebackpack89|talk]]) 00:18, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

:I'm going to be cleaning up the table soon. The direct links to Meritbadge.org need to go and some other cleanup. We have four new merit badges (Scuba, Scouting Heritage, Robotics, GPS) plus four classic badges returning for 2010 only (Tracking, Signaling, Blacksmithing). ---'''''—&nbsp;[[User:Gadget850|<span style="color:gray">Gadget850&nbsp;(Ed)</span>]]<span style="color:darkblue">&nbsp;'''''</span>^{[[User talk:Gadget850|''talk'']]} 01:57, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

::I'll be peeved if heritage isn't a campaign hat. Up or down on the silver? [[User:Purplebackpack89|Purplebackpack89]] ([[User talk:Purplebackpack89|talk]]) 06:03, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

:::Up on silver, and can you link me to a source on the classic merit badges? --[[User:CnrFallon|Conor Fallon]] ([[User talk:CnrFallon|talk]]) 02:19, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

::::Don't have a reliable source yet on the classics. ---'''''—&nbsp;[[User:Gadget850|<span style="color:gray">Gadget850&nbsp;(Ed)</span>]]<span style="color:darkblue">&nbsp;'''''</span>^{[[User talk:Gadget850|''talk'']]} 12:17, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

On the color— the Manual of Style says not to use colored text. How about we highligh the row:

{|class="wikitable sortable"

!Name

!Created

!Requirements revision

!Pamphlet revision

!Further reading

|-

|Bugling

|1911

|2003

|2008

|[[Bugle (instrument)|Bugle]]

|-

|style="background:#c0c0c0;"|Camping

|style="background:#c0c0c0;"|1911

|style="background:#c0c0c0;"|2005

|style="background:#c0c0c0;"|2008

|style="background:#c0c0c0;"|[[Camping]]

|}

---'''''—&nbsp;[[User:Gadget850|<span style="color:gray">Gadget850&nbsp;(Ed)</span>]]<span style="color:darkblue">&nbsp;'''''</span>^{[[User talk:Gadget850|''talk'']]} 14:11, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

:::Excellent. That's exactly what I had intended. You just can't highlight the text unless it's in a table. Maybe c0c0c0 instead of dcdcdc [[User:Purplebackpack89|Purplebackpack89]] ([[User talk:Purplebackpack89|talk]]) 18:02, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

== What should I do with this table ==

I made a table of the original 57 merit badges. Where should it go?

{|class="wikitable"

|-

!Merit badge

!Subject matter

!Status

|-

|Agriculture||[[Agriculture]]||Merged into Plant Science, 1975

|-

|Angling||[[Angling]], [[Fishing]]||Renamed Fishing in 1911

|-

|Archery||[[Archery]]||

|-

|Architecture||[[Architecture]]||Arch logo used continuously for 100 years

|-

|Art||[[Art]] ||Palette log used continuously for 100 years

|-

|Astronomy||[[Astronomy]]||

|-

|Athletics||[[Track and field athletics|Athletics]]||Wingfoot logo used continuously for 100 years

|-

||Automobiling||[[Automobile safety]]||Exists today “Traffic Safety”

|-

|Aviation||[[Aviation]]||

|-

|Bee Farming||[[Beekeeping]]||Discontinued 1995

|-

|Blacksmithing||[[Blacksmith]]ing||Discontinued, Re-released for 2010 only

|-

|Bugling||[[Bugle]]||

|-

|Business||[[Business]]||Renamed American Business in 1966.

|-

|Camping||[[Camping]]||

|-

|Carpentry||[[Carpentry]]||Partially replaced by Woodwork, 1952

|-

|Chemistry||[[Chemistry]]||Flask logo used continuously for 100 years

|-

|Civics||[[Citizenship]]||Renamed Citizenship, later split into Home, Community, Nation, and World

|-

|Conservation||[[Conservation]]||Exists today as Fish and Wildlife Management and Environmental Science

|-

|Cooking||[[Cooking]]||

|-

|Craftsmanship||[[Artisan]]||Split into various Building and Handicraft merit badges

|-

|Cycling||[[Cycling]]||

|-

|Dairying||[[Dairy farming]]||Merged into Animal Science, 1975

|-

|Electricity||[[Electricity]]||

|-

|Firemanship||[[Fire safety]]||Renamed Fire Safety in 1995

|-

|First Aid||[[First aid]]||Cross logo used continuously for 100 years

|-

|First Aid to Animals|| [[Veterinary medicine]]|Renamed Veterinary Medicine

|-

|Forestry||[[Forestry]]||

|-

|Gardening||[[Gardening]]||

|-

|Handicraft||[[Handicraft]]|| Split into various Building and Handicraft merit badges

|-

|Horsemanship||[[Equestrianism]]||

|-

|Interpreting||[[Interpreting]]||Discontinued 1952

|-

|Invention||[[Inventing]]||Discontinued 1915, but re-introduced for 2010

|-

|Leatherworking||[[Leatherworking]]||Renamed “Leatherwork”

|-

|Lifesaving||[[Lifesaving]]||Life preserver logo used continuously for 100 years

|-

|Machinery||[[Machinery]]||Discontinued 1995

|-

|Marksmanship||[[Shooting]]||Split into Rifle Shooting and Shotgun Shooting

|-

|Masonry||[[Masonry]]||Discontinued in 1995

|-

|Mining||[[Mining]]||Renamed Geology

|-

|Music||[[Music]]||Lyre logo used continuously for 100 years

|-

|Ornithology||[[Ornithology]]||Was originally required for Eagle, replaced by Bird Study

|-

|Painting||[[Paint]]||

|-

|Pathfinding||[[Orienteering]]||Replaced by Orienteering

|-

|Personal Health||[[Physical Fitness]]||Replaced by Personal Fitness in 1952

|-

|Photography||[[Photography]]||

|-

|Pioneering||[[Pioneering]]||

|-

|Plumbing||[[Plumbing]]||Faucet logo used continuously for 100 years

|-

|Poultry Farming||[[Poultry]]||Merged into Animal Science, 1975

|-

|Printing||[[Printing]]||Merged into Graphic Arts, 1987

|-

|Public Health||[[Public Health]]||Torch logo used continuously for 100 years

|-

|Scholarship||[[Scholarship]]|| Logo used continuously for 100 years

|-

|Sculpture||[[Sculpture]]||

|-

|Seamanship||[[Boating]]||

|-

|Signaling||[[Semaphore]]||Discontinued in 1992, Re-released for 2010 only

|-

|Stalking||[[Tracking]]||Discontinued 1952

|-

|Surveying||[[Surveying]]||

|-

|Swimming||[[Human swimming]]||

|-

|Taxidermy||[[Taxidermy]]||Discontinued in 1952

|}

[[User:Purplebackpack89|Purplebackpack89]] ([[User talk:Purplebackpack89|talk]]) 03:02, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

:[[Discontinued merit badges (Boy Scouts of America)]]? Do you have a source for the 2010 classic merit badges? I heard that Tracking was one of them. ---'''''—&nbsp;[[User:Gadget850|<span style="color:gray">Gadget850&nbsp;(Ed)</span>]]<span style="color:darkblue">&nbsp;'''''</span>^{[[User talk:Gadget850|''talk'']]} 03:56, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

::You were my "source" for that. Probably should delete the retro badges until the first of the year. [[User:Purplebackpack89|Purplebackpack89]] ([[User talk:Purplebackpack89|talk]]) 04:28, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

:::But am I a reliable source? {{=)|devil}} Anyway, this is best for the discontinued list. The Chemistry logo is specifically a [[retort]]. ---'''''—&nbsp;[[User:Gadget850|<span style="color:gray">Gadget850&nbsp;(Ed)</span>]]<span style="color:darkblue">&nbsp;'''''</span>^{[[User talk:Gadget850|''talk'']]} 12:06, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

== Bugling ==

Looks like Bugling will be discontinued as of January 2011 with most of the requirements being merged into Music. ---'''''—&nbsp;[[User:Gadget850|<span style="color:gray">Gadget850&nbsp;(Ed)</span>]]<span style="color:darkblue">&nbsp;'''''</span>^{[[User talk:Gadget850|''talk'']]} 21:39, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

:And it has been reinstated.[http://blog.scoutingmagazine.org/2010/08/bugling-reinstated-as-separate-merit-badge.html] ---'''''—&nbsp;[[User:Gadget850|<span style="color:gray">Gadget850&nbsp;(Ed)</span>]]<span style="color:darkblue">&nbsp;'''''</span>^{[[User talk:Gadget850|''talk'']]} 17:43, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

::What first prompted it to be cut? (My money says they cut Am Labor, personally) '''<font face="Verdana">[[User:Purplebackpack89#top|<font color="#3A003A">Pur</font><font color="#800080">ple</font>]][[User talk:Purplebackpack89|<font color="#991C99">back</font><font color="#CC33CC">pack</font><font color="gold">89</font>]]</font>''' 19:29, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

:::My SWAG is numbers^*. [http://meritbadge.org/wiki/index.php/Merit_Badges_Earned MeritBadge.org] shows 684 earned in 2007. ---'''''—&nbsp;[[User:Gadget850|<span style="color:gray">Gadget850&nbsp;(Ed)</span>]]<span style="color:darkblue">&nbsp;'''''</span>^{[[User talk:Gadget850|''talk'']]} 11:51, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

:::<small>^*Scientific wild ass guess</small>

== Chess Merit Badge? ==

A few weeks ago, somebody sent me a press release about the Chess Merit Badge. One of my fellow scoutmasters confirmed it, and there is now a page about it on MeritBadge.com. Should we add it to the list? That would require replacing Robotics as newest merit badge with Chess '''''[[User talk:Purplebackpack89#top|<font color="#660066">Purpleback</font>]][[User:Purplebackpack89|<font color="#000000">pack</font>]][[User:Purplebackpack89/C|<font color="gold">89</font>]]<font color="#FF9900">≈≈≈≈</font>''''' 02:33, 26 August 2011 (UTC)