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:::Mike Long was banned from Invitational of, hmm, 2001(?) by Mark Rosewater himself for 'not fulfilling player responsibilities' during the earlier invitational. Sadly, I can no longer locate the evidence for this: Archive.org does not store all the former Sideboard Online pages and they are not under Wizards' own server, either, since Magicthegathering has replaced the now defunct Sideboard Online. So it can't be added unverified. If someone manages to find this piece of information, it could be added. The ban was explained in a piece of writing by MaRo. [[User:130.231.89.99|130.231.89.99]] 12:56, 31 January 2007 (UTC) Argh. It appears you need to create separate accounts for each language Wikipedia separately. (Which, by the way, is extremely bad planning.) In any case, the above comment was actually by me. [[User:Thaurwylth|Thaurwylth]] 13:02, 31 January 2007 (UTC) |
:::Mike Long was banned from Invitational of, hmm, 2001(?) by Mark Rosewater himself for 'not fulfilling player responsibilities' during the earlier invitational. Sadly, I can no longer locate the evidence for this: Archive.org does not store all the former Sideboard Online pages and they are not under Wizards' own server, either, since Magicthegathering has replaced the now defunct Sideboard Online. So it can't be added unverified. If someone manages to find this piece of information, it could be added. The ban was explained in a piece of writing by MaRo. [[User:130.231.89.99|130.231.89.99]] 12:56, 31 January 2007 (UTC) Argh. It appears you need to create separate accounts for each language Wikipedia separately. (Which, by the way, is extremely bad planning.) In any case, the above comment was actually by me. [[User:Thaurwylth|Thaurwylth]] 13:02, 31 January 2007 (UTC) |
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== About MTG Secrets == |
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The bias in this article is ridiculous. Mike obviously just wrote his own profile. Mike is a cheater and this is what he is remembered for.
Bluffing, not cheating?
"At the 1997 Pro-Tour Paris, Long was playing Mark Justice. Mike realized that he would lose the next turn if he could not get his "engine" to go off this turn. However, in order to get his combo to go off, he would have to discard his only win condition - a single Drain Life he had placed in his deck. He decided to do so anyways. After drawing a large number of cards with a large Prosperity, Long asked his opponent "Do I really have to go through all the motions?". Before the days of well-known and circulated internet decklists, Justice didn't realize that Mike had no way of winning the game, so he said "No" and conceded the game"
Isn't that just a solid bluff? MewtwoStruckBack 16:40, 29 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Then shouldn't it be removed from the controversy section? That's an entirely legitimate move, just like going all-in with 7-2 offsuit in No Limit Texas Hold'Em. I don't doubt that he's done his fair share of cheating; it's just that this wasn't an instance of it. MewtwoStruckBack 16:45, 2 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
That's all he's done? The controversy section needs more material. If most of his criticisms had no sources or proof (and were removed from this article); and these are the only verifiable criticisms/controversial actions he's made, than why exactly is he so hated in the Magic tournament community? I know there is a lot of controversy surrounding him; but this article does not do that any justice -- I could still not understand how he's become so disliked. The section mentions a bluff; although it is controversy and unsportsmanlike; it is not against the rules; and I consider it to be very smart -- it reminds me of what people do in Poker. So based on this, I KNOW that there is a lot more stuff Mike Long has done wrong; he is hated for bigger reasons than the ones mentioned here. Can someone include in the article some of his more important and controversial-moves and cite sources for them? 24.23.51.27 11:26, 13 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
He didn't actually create Long.dec
The "MTG Secrets" thing isn't important enough to be mentioned, but if it must be then it should also be mentioned that it is considered a scam. If it isn't, it's just advertising. 84.55.83.49 22:55, 29 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I was looking at the history and saw that a prior version of the article (here) mentions this incident. I remember this story, so I'm confident that we can find a reliable source for it. By today's standards, at least, misrepresenting the game in this way would be cheating, though we can't say as much in the article becasue of WP:SYNT. Still, it's a notble example of Long's suspicious play, and so long as we can source that it happened, it should go in. Croctotheface 14:03, 30 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]