Please correct: "The Allies landed in Sicily in July 1943 and in Italy in September." to "The Allies landed in [[Sicily]] in July 1943 and in CONTINENTAL Italy in September." [[Special:Contributions/62.211.181.80|62.211.181.80]] ([[User talk:62.211.181.80|talk]]) 16:07, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
Please correct: "The Allies landed in Sicily in July 1943 and in Italy in September." to "The Allies landed in [[Sicily]] in July 1943 and in CONTINENTAL Italy in September." [[Special:Contributions/62.211.181.80|62.211.181.80]] ([[User talk:62.211.181.80|talk]]) 16:07, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
:Fixed. --[[User:Obenritter|Obenritter]] ([[User talk:Obenritter|talk]]) 16:21, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
Revisionasof16:21,14June2024
This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the Nazi Germany article. This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject.
This article is within the scope of WikiProject History, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of the subject of History on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.HistoryWikipedia:WikiProject HistoryTemplate:WikiProject Historyhistory articles
This article is within the scope of WikiProject European history, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of the history of Europe on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.European historyWikipedia:WikiProject European historyTemplate:WikiProject European historyEuropean history articles
This article is within the scope of the Military history WikiProject. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the project and see a list of open tasks. To use this banner, please see the full instructions.Military historyWikipedia:WikiProject Military historyTemplate:WikiProject Military historymilitary history articles
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Germany, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Germany on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.GermanyWikipedia:WikiProject GermanyTemplate:WikiProject GermanyGermany articles
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Former countries, a collaborative effort to improve Wikipedia's coverage of defunct states and territories (and their subdivisions). If you would like to participate, please join the project.Former countriesWikipedia:WikiProject Former countriesTemplate:WikiProject Former countriesformer country articles
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Politics, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of politics on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.PoliticsWikipedia:WikiProject PoliticsTemplate:WikiProject Politicspolitics articles
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Austria, an attempt to build a comprehensive and detailed guide to articles about Austria on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please join the project.AustriaWikipedia:WikiProject AustriaTemplate:WikiProject AustriaAustria articles
The subject of this article is controversial and content may be in dispute. When updating the article, be bold, but not reckless. Feel free to try to improve the article, but don't take it personally if your changes are reversed; instead, come here to the talk page to discuss them. Content must be written from a neutral point of view. Include citations when adding content and consider tagging or removing unsourced information.
This article is written in British English, which has its own spelling conventions (colour, travelled, centre, defence, artefact, analyse) and some terms that are used in it may be different or absent from other varieties of English. According to the relevant style guide, this should not be changed without broad consensus.
We need a reference for Nazi Germany, officially known as the German Reich until 1943, later the Greater German Reich, is the term used by historians to describe the German state
Why should a coordinate in Berlin ( which one) be the coordinate of the "NS-Staat", please delete the coordinates Oursana (talk) 22:51, 21 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Coordinates are common practice for countries.
Nazi Germany is used per WP:COMMONNAME (common as in recognizable)
Thanks for your quick response. I cannot see why a coordinate in Berlin is given for Nazi Germany to compare with the coordinate of the United Kingdom or Germany in the middle of the country. Interesting enough, there are no coordinates for "German Reich".
I ask for a reference for the statement, that Nazi Germany is the term used by historians to describe the German state in that period. This very outstanding absolute statement needs citation to be kept in the article. I doubt that historians exclusively or mainly use this unofficial naming. Oursana (talk) 01:21, 22 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I checked three books (Evans, Beevor, Shirer) and did not see it in use. We shouldn't say historians use the term unless we've got at least one who does so. The wording was not present when the article passed GA. I took it out for the time being. We can re-add it if a source is later found. — Diannaa (talk) 02:22, 22 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 24 March 2024
Cite error: A<ref> tag is missing the closing </ref> (see the help page).</ref>
This edit request has been answered. Set the |answered=or|ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request.
Nazi conquests began in 1938 with the annexation of Austria, followed in 1939 by the annexation of half of the former Czechoslovakia. The part taken corresponds to today's Czech Republic.
September 1, 1939 marks the start of the Second World War with the German invasion of Poland. On September 3, 1939, France and the United Kingdom declared war on Germany to help Poland. The USSR, allied with Germany, invaded Poland, which capitulated on October 6, 1939. It was then divided between Germany and the Soviet Union at the border between present-day Poland and Belarus.
On December 2, 1939, the USSR invaded Finland, and Germany deployed troops to support Finland. The invasion ended in March 1940.
On April 9, 1940, Germany invades Denmark, which capitulates after 6 hours.
On April 10, 1940, Germany invades Norway, which loses almost all its territory except for a part in the north.
On May 11, 1940, Germany invaded Luxembourg, the Netherlands and Belgium, then France, in order to bypass the Maginot Line set up by France. On July 10, 1940, France surrendered and was divided into an occupied zone and a free zone. Meanwhile, Norway was fully occupied and governed by Germany.
On April 6, 1941, Germany invaded the former Yugoslavia, which capitulated on the 18th.
On April 7 Germany invades Greece, which capitulates in early June 1941.
On June 21, 1941, Germany invades the USSR.
On November 11, 1942, Germany reclaimed a large part of Free France, and the rest went to the Italians.
On September 10, 1943, Germany annexed Italy, which had suffered an American landing, enabling Germany to reach its territorial goal of 3.35 million km2.
Biggest extent of germany in between september 1943 and october 1943
But after that, Germany suffered nothing but heavy military defeats, and with the arrival of the Allies in Berlin and Hitler's help, it was forced to capitulate on May 8, 1945.
so, yes fascism does exist, but this is the nazi state not the "fascist state", it seems to imply a own form of government its possible that i am mistaken and am open to a diffrent perspective anyhow such a bold claim needs citations its possible that nazi germany could informally called a fascist state but no "fascist state" stand alone concept Gooduserdude (talk) 17:52, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
yes Nazism is indeed a form of fascism, still it does not justify the specific edit, fascism is a form of nationalism (albeit a far-right and racial ultranationalist one) does it that mean we should call nazi germany a fascist nationalist state? as i will repeat since you seem to miss my above point, such a bold claim needs citations its possible that nazi germany could informally called a fascist state but no "fascist state" stand alone concept Gooduserdude (talk) 18:12, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Diannaa:(you seem to have edit this page quite frequently and an admin), meybe you can come to this discussion? meybe if such a stand alone concept exists, it could be a new article Fascist state (currently a redirect) otherwise why should an informal term be used in the infobox as a government type? Gooduserdude (talk) 18:30, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Why do you say "fascism" is an informal term? I don't think that's so.
I see that in the body of the article we describe Nazi Germany as fascist, sourced to Spielvogel (2016). Our article Nazism notes that "Nazism is a form of fascism, with disdain for liberal democracy and the parliamentary system" and offers four citations, one of which is the same work by Spielvogel. The Spielvogel citation contains a quote: "Nazism was only one, although the most important, of a number of similar-looking fascist movements in Europe between World War I and World War II." So the decscription as it being a fascist state is okay to keep in my opinion. — Diannaa (talk) 18:54, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If you really want, we could link only 'fascist' but I think you're making a bigger deal out of this than it is. Something can be 'fascist'. That's a trivial statement. JackTheSecond (talk) 19:13, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
ok JackTheSecond is right, it does not have to be a bigger deal than it is. Something can indeed be called fascist, this concludes this discussion. Gooduserdude (talk) 19:56, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 21 May 2024
This edit request has been answered. Set the |answered=or|ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request.
@Docd13: recently changed the image in the infobox to one which is apparently more accurate, but he forgot to include the "frameless" parameter that was previously there. As a result the infobox is far too big.
If this decision was based the current options being more notable, I feel that this is a poor decision for providing factually correct information, as the occupation zones WERE the direct successors, and the page should reflect as such. East and West Germany were not created until four years after Nazi Germany ceased to exist. At the very least, if these two must be included, why not still include the occupation zone articles as well, and put the years of each entity's creation in parenthesis next to it, similar to what KGB has for preceding and succeeding agencies? Just things to consider.
Please correct: "The Allies landed in Sicily in July 1943 and in Italy in September." to "The Allies landed in Sicily in July 1943 and in CONTINENTAL Italy in September." 62.211.181.80 (talk) 16:07, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
level-4 vital article is rated GA-class on Wikipedia's content assessment scale.
