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::::Looks like an ambiguity in the phrase. I.E. 'Spiritual' modifies 'rebirth', but ambiguity may make it sound like there's a natural birth, a spiritual birth, then a spiritual rebirth. The Bible doesn't use "spiritual rebirth"; rather we see "born again" (rebirth), and separately, "born from above" ("spiritual" birth). >GK gennathei anothen. (Should we crack open some Bible commentaries?) [[User:Washi|Washi]] ([[User talk:Washi|talk]]) 18:19, 23 April 2009 (UTC) |
::::Looks like an ambiguity in the phrase. I.E. 'Spiritual' modifies 'rebirth', but ambiguity may make it sound like there's a natural birth, a spiritual birth, then a spiritual rebirth. The Bible doesn't use "spiritual rebirth"; rather we see "born again" (rebirth), and separately, "born from above" ("spiritual" birth). >GK gennathei anothen. (Should we crack open some Bible commentaries?) [[User:Washi|Washi]] ([[User talk:Washi|talk]]) 18:19, 23 April 2009 (UTC) |
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:::::Just a passing thought on this discussion. I'm not sure a quote from the Bible, constitutes [[WP:OR|original research]] and I think over the past 2,000 years or so, it has managed to establish itself as a [[WP:RS|reliable source]]. I don't want to get into a debate in this forum on the authenticity of the Bible, but certainly it is as "source worthy" as any of the other sources accepted by Wikipedia. To, in effect, suggest that the Bible is an opinion book on par as the op/ed portion of a daily news paper may be, at best, a bit intellectually disingenuous. Just my two cents on the discussion. |
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== Merge with [[Born again (Christianity)]] == |
== Merge with [[Born again (Christianity)]] == |
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I changed "spiritual rebirth" to "spiritual birth". The "re" of regeneration and the "again" of "born again" is in reference to our natural birth. In regeneration, we are spiritually born, not reborn. —Preceding unsigned comment added by TFOTMWWNBP (talk • contribs) 18:38, 7 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia naming conventions state that adjectives should redirect to nouns. Regeneration is the theological concept, while "born again" is a descriptor of those who have undergone regeneration (in the same way that "regenerated" is a descriptor rather than a concept). Born again (Christianity) should be merged into this article. Neelix (talk) 17:28, 12 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]