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I would like to know what these 15 principles are. If they can not be put in the article, could we have a link to them? [[Special:Contributions/66.201.56.88|66.201.56.88]] ([[User talk:66.201.56.88|talk]]) 00:30, 1 February 2010 (UTC) |
I would like to know what these 15 principles are. If they can not be put in the article, could we have a link to them? [[Special:Contributions/66.201.56.88|66.201.56.88]] ([[User talk:66.201.56.88|talk]]) 00:30, 1 February 2010 (UTC) |
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:The founding principles state explicitly that the Rhodesian Front was a white supremacist party. While this was not contentious at the time, the references to furthering domination of the European race in Rhodesia at the expense of Native races is making some contributors nervous. [[User:MTM-2k|MTM-2k]] ([[User talk:MTM-2k|talk]]) 14:38, 29 January 2023 (UTC) |
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Should "White supremacy" be included in the "Ideology" list of the Infobox? --[[User:TU-nor|T*U]] ([[User talk:TU-nor|talk]]) 09:06, 11 April 2020 (UTC) |
Should "White supremacy" be included in the "Ideology" list of the Infobox? --[[User:TU-nor|T*U]] ([[User talk:TU-nor|talk]]) 09:06, 11 April 2020 (UTC) |
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*'''Oppose''' - They aren't really white supremacists. They rather simply opposed [[racial integration]], therefore I oppose. [[User:Koridas|<span style="color: green">🌺Kori🌺</span>]] - ([[User talk:Koridas|<span style="color: blue">@</span>]]) 19:03, 24 April 2020 (UTC) |
*'''Oppose''' - They aren't really white supremacists. They rather simply opposed [[racial integration]], therefore I oppose. [[User:Koridas|<span style="color: green">🌺Kori🌺</span>]] - ([[User talk:Koridas|<span style="color: blue">@</span>]]) 19:03, 24 April 2020 (UTC) |
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*'''Include''' per sourcesofTU-nor. [[User:Behindthekeys|Behindthekeys]] ([[User talk:Behindthekeys|talk]]) 18:13, 4 May 2020 (UTC) |
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== White supremacism == |
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The RfC above was closed with a clear consensus: {{tq|The consensus is that "White supremacy" should be included in the "Ideology" list of the infobox based on how reliable sources have described the political party.}} This was implemented 16 May. One month later, two editors again edit to remove it, using edit summaries like {{tq|the Rhodesian Front is not a white supremacist party}}. In a last version, they accept including "White interests", which hardly can be described as an ideology. |
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The outcome of the RfC was clear. I have explained [[WP:RS]] and [[WP:CONSENSUS]] to {{u|Neddyfram}} in their talk page and given them the chance to self revert, but they have not been active for more than a week after their last revert. Now it is time to implement the consensus again. --[[User:TU-nor|T*U]] ([[User talk:TU-nor|talk]]) 07:04, 6 July 2020 (UTC)\ |
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There obviously is no consensus above, per the Weak Oppose and Oppose sections. I propose we replace "White Supremacy" with "White Interests" [[Special:Contributions/2001:56A:FA44:C100:B4A7:9202:3268:8A89|2001:56A:FA44:C100:B4A7:9202:3268:8A89]] ([[User talk:2001:56A:FA44:C100:B4A7:9202:3268:8A89|talk]]) 23:06, 14 December 2020 (UTC) |
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The Rhodesian Front was a self proclaimed white supremacist organisation, this view was unambiguously espoused within rank and file of the party and existed in the Rhodesian Front's own Principles and Policies (1962) manifesto. Why is this being contested? [[User:MTM-2k|MTM-2k]] ([[User talk:MTM-2k|talk]]) 22:18, 28 January 2023 (UTC) |
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:{{ping|MTM-2k}} Why then it had a lot of Black members? --[[Special:Contributions/95.24.66.180|95.24.66.180]] ([[User talk:95.24.66.180|talk]]) 02:27, 16 January 2024 (UTC) |
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::hi. Do you have a source where we can read that? [[User:Babakathy|Babakathy]] ([[User talk:Babakathy|talk]]) 05:14, 16 January 2024 (UTC) |
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More perhaps on its origins from Liberals, the Dominion Party, and of Ian Smith who split from the latter forming the Reform Party, later remerging with the Dominion Party to form the Rhodesian Front (led by former Dominon Party leader, Winston Field, soon to be ousted by Smith).
I see a WikiProject: Fascism tag has been added to this page. I've added a note at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Fascism asking for explanation, since there's no obvious connection. If no explanation is forthcoming, I'll remove the tag.Humansdorpie 21:17, 13 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Replaced the list of party principles removed without explanation; the principles of the party (i.e. what it stood for) are surely an important part of the article? 82.108.5.59 12:57, 13 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I would like to know what these 15 principles are. If they can not be put in the article, could we have a link to them? 66.201.56.88 (talk) 00:30, 1 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The party changed its name in 1981 - it was not dissolved.Royalcourtier (talk) 20:10, 16 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
The consensus is that "White supremacy" should be included in the "Ideology" list of the infobox based on how reliable sources have described the political party.
Should "White supremacy" be included in the "Ideology" list of the Infobox? --T*U (talk) 09:06, 11 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
After having been reverted several times in spite of adding gradually more sources in support of the addition, I feel the need to get input from more editors. --T*U (talk) 09:06, 11 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
The Rhodesian Front was not white supremacist,
calling them "White Supremacists" is misleadingand similar statements. Wikipedia does, however, not base its content on the opinion of editors. but on reliable sources, and there seems to be no lack of sources that describe the party as "White Supremacist". Here are but a few:[1][2][3][4][5]
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The RfC above was closed with a clear consensus: The consensus is that "White supremacy" should be included in the "Ideology" list of the infobox based on how reliable sources have described the political party.
This was implemented 16 May. One month later, two editors again edit to remove it, using edit summaries like the Rhodesian Front is not a white supremacist party
. In a last version, they accept including "White interests", which hardly can be described as an ideology.
The outcome of the RfC was clear. I have explained WP:RS and WP:CONSENSUStoNeddyfram in their talk page and given them the chance to self revert, but they have not been active for more than a week after their last revert. Now it is time to implement the consensus again. --T*U (talk) 07:04, 6 July 2020 (UTC)\[reply]
There obviously is no consensus above, per the Weak Oppose and Oppose sections. I propose we replace "White Supremacy" with "White Interests" 2001:56A:FA44:C100:B4A7:9202:3268:8A89 (talk) 23:06, 14 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
The Rhodesian Front was a self proclaimed white supremacist organisation, this view was unambiguously espoused within rank and file of the party and existed in the Rhodesian Front's own Principles and Policies (1962) manifesto. Why is this being contested? MTM-2k (talk) 22:18, 28 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]