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==A start== |
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This is just a start. If I've left your town out of the list, please be sure to add it! |
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This is just a start. If I've left your town out of the list, please be sure to add it! <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/222.8.84.62|222.8.84.62]] ([[User talk:222.8.84.62#top|talk]]) 13:38, 29 July 2004 (UTC)</small> |
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== The Adamses == |
== The Adamses == |
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| ⚫ | The Adamses were from Quincy, which I do not believe is part of the Irish Riviera, despite being on the coast south of Boston. It's too working-class, despite the fact that many from Southie and Dorchester settled there. <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/199.173.224.21|199.173.224.21]] ([[User talk:199.173.224.21#top|talk]]) 18:37, 20 April 2006 (UTC)</small> |
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:If I may offer some original research: people from Boston and the [[North Shore (Massachusetts)|North Shore]] consider everything south of Boston proper to be the South Shore. People from the towns south of Quincy consider Quincy to be part of Metro Boston, not the South Shore. And people from Quincy don't particularly care, although City Hall seems to prefer the image of "largest city on the South Shore" to "one of many Boston exurbs." Regardless, Quincy publishes [[The Patriot Ledger|the South Shore's newspaper]] and is considered by at least a few million people to be part of the South Shore, so it's not worth seriously proposing removing it from the article. You're right, though-- I don't think ''anyone'' refers to Quincy as "the Irish Riviera." --[[User:Fullobeans|Fullobeans]] ([[User talk:Fullobeans|talk]]) 18:13, 3 July 2008 (UTC) |
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| ⚫ | The Adamses were from Quincy, which I do not believe is part of the Irish Riviera, despite being on the coast south of Boston. It's too working-class, despite the fact that many from Southie and Dorchester settled there. |
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Include in South Shore, Massachusetts, the town of Bridgewater <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/76.24.212.19|76.24.212.19]] ([[User talk:76.24.212.19|talk]]) 07:09, 14 September 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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Plymouth is not actually part of the South Shore of Massachusetts Bay. It is the West Shore of Cape Cod Bay and its [[Geography]] makes it part of Cape Cod. Just a thought.[[User:Leftshore|Leftshore]] 14:01, 21 May 2007 (UTC) |
Plymouth is not actually part of the South Shore of Massachusetts Bay. It is the West Shore of Cape Cod Bay and its [[Geography]] makes it part of Cape Cod. Just a thought.[[User:Leftshore|Leftshore]] 14:01, 21 May 2007 (UTC) |
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Can't say that I have ever heard of Plymouth referred to as part of Cape Cod, nor have I ever heard the term "West Shore". [[User:151.203.29.117|151.203.29.117]] 14:18, 3 August 2007 (UTC) |
:Can't say that I have ever heard of Plymouth referred to as part of Cape Cod, nor have I ever heard the term "West Shore". [[User:151.203.29.117|151.203.29.117]] 14:18, 3 August 2007 (UTC) |
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:Parts of Plymouth are definitely considered to be part of Cape Cod - especially Manomet/Cedarville/Ellisville. "West Shore" sounds like some sort of a joke or a prank. --[[User:Astanhope|AStanhope]] 03:44, 5 August 2007 (UTC) |
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::Geographically, I'd assume he's correct, but that's probably too technical for something that's informally and inexactly used. I might live in the [[Merrimack Valley]] so I don't know exactly what I'm talking about, but I've always considered Plymouth to be South Shore. Plymouth geographically must be on Cape Cod Bay (I'd need a current chart I guess to know for sure...), not Mass Bay. In this article, being on Mass Bay is the definition of the South Shore. So, as silly as it sounds, that'd make Plymouth geographically West Shore - Just a term nobody ever gave any meaning to. [[User:CSZero|CSZero]] 22:28, 5 August 2007 (UTC) |
::Parts of Plymouth are definitely considered to be part of Cape Cod - especially Manomet/Cedarville/Ellisville. "West Shore" sounds like some sort of a joke or a prank. --[[User:Astanhope|AStanhope]] 03:44, 5 August 2007 (UTC) |
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:::Geographically, I'd assume he's correct, but that's probably too technical for something that's informally and inexactly used. I might live in the [[Merrimack Valley]] so I don't know exactly what I'm talking about, but I've always considered Plymouth to be South Shore. Plymouth geographically must be on Cape Cod Bay (I'd need a current chart I guess to know for sure...), not Mass Bay. In this article, being on Mass Bay is the definition of the South Shore. So, as silly as it sounds, that'd make Plymouth geographically West Shore - Just a term nobody ever gave any meaning to. [[User:CSZero|CSZero]] 22:28, 5 August 2007 (UTC) |
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::::Cape Cod Bay is (under some definitions) part of Massachusetts Bay. [[User:Ajd|AJD]] 04:35, 6 August 2007 (UTC) |
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:::::Absolute bullshit. Plymouth is part of the South Shore, I've lived here all my life and have never heard it referred to otherwise. And if it's on the mainland side of the bridges, it's not the fucking Cape by any stretch of the imagination. [[User:Wormwoodpoppies|Wormwoodpoppies]] ([[User talk:Wormwoodpoppies|talk]]) 02:08, 13 May 2009 (UTC) |
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== Kingston and General Geographic Semantics. == |
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I removed Kingston from the list of inland towns "sometimes" considered part of the South Shore because it does have a (very small) coastline. As for Plymouth, I can assure you that the universal consensus among residents is that it too is part of the South Shore and is not by any stretch of the imagination on Cape Cod. I'm going to throw down the gauntlet and demand that some seriously legit sources be cited favoring its exclusion, or else I'm going to do the unthinkable and make an edit backed up only by common sense and twenty four years of firsthand experience. Cheers. [[User:Wormwoodpoppies|Wormwoodpoppies]] ([[User talk:Wormwoodpoppies|talk]]) 19:59, 1 September 2009 (UTC) |
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:I agree, for the most part. I re-arranged things so that there's a coastal list that includes Kingston, and I moved Plymouth there, as well. --[[User:Inquietudeofcharacter|inquietudeofcharacter]] ([[User talk:Inquietudeofcharacter|talk]]) 23:57, 1 September 2009 (UTC) |
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== Text from 72.227.66.94 == |
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There are many people who grew up on the South Shore who believe the south shore is defined by than just geographic location. Many don't include Quincy and Braintree as they are considered too city-like. Other don't include Weymouth, as it's been said that city is in a league of it's own and doesn't fit in any category. When reviewing the South Shore, many feel it is defined by a more country like setting, with fewer sidewalks, lower population numbers, and a houses further apart. In the opinion of many, the South Shore area consists of Hingham, Cohasset, Scituate, Hanover, Pembroke, Duxbury, Kingston, Halifax, Plympton, Carver and Plymouth. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:72.227.66.94|72.227.66.94]] ([[User talk:72.227.66.94|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/72.227.66.94|contribs]]) 09:57, September 5, 2009</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> |
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'''Note:''' The previous text was moved from the article to the talk page for discussion. [[User:Sswonk|Sswonk]] ([[User talk:Sswonk|talk]]) 12:08, 5 September 2009 (UTC) |
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== Other Towns == |
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I think that something needs to be included on other towns that are referred to as being on the south shore. So many towns west of the definitive line have businesses that refer to "the South Shore" in their name in addition to the residents saying they live on the South Shore. Yeah, back in the 20th century the definition was limited to the actually shoreline communities, but nowadays its really expanded to include communities further from the ocean. After things like regional definitions are really contingent on the people that live in them. If the general consensus is that certain towns are on the South Shore, I think that should be included in this article. I'm referring to the Bridgewaters. An example would be Marylou's. There are locations in Bridgewater and East Bridgewater. Marylou's is such a South Shore staple. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/76.24.114.88|76.24.114.88]] ([[User talk:76.24.114.88|talk]]) 17:53, 19 February 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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This is just a start. If I've left your town out of the list, please be sure to add it! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 222.8.84.62 (talk) 13:38, 29 July 2004 (UTC)[reply]
The Adamses were from Quincy, which I do not believe is part of the Irish Riviera, despite being on the coast south of Boston. It's too working-class, despite the fact that many from Southie and Dorchester settled there. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.173.224.21 (talk) 18:37, 20 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Include in South Shore, Massachusetts, the town of Bridgewater —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.24.212.19 (talk) 07:09, 14 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Plymouth is not actually part of the South Shore of Massachusetts Bay. It is the West Shore of Cape Cod Bay and its Geography makes it part of Cape Cod. Just a thought.Leftshore 14:01, 21 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I removed Kingston from the list of inland towns "sometimes" considered part of the South Shore because it does have a (very small) coastline. As for Plymouth, I can assure you that the universal consensus among residents is that it too is part of the South Shore and is not by any stretch of the imagination on Cape Cod. I'm going to throw down the gauntlet and demand that some seriously legit sources be cited favoring its exclusion, or else I'm going to do the unthinkable and make an edit backed up only by common sense and twenty four years of firsthand experience. Cheers. Wormwoodpoppies (talk) 19:59, 1 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
There are many people who grew up on the South Shore who believe the south shore is defined by than just geographic location. Many don't include Quincy and Braintree as they are considered too city-like. Other don't include Weymouth, as it's been said that city is in a league of it's own and doesn't fit in any category. When reviewing the South Shore, many feel it is defined by a more country like setting, with fewer sidewalks, lower population numbers, and a houses further apart. In the opinion of many, the South Shore area consists of Hingham, Cohasset, Scituate, Hanover, Pembroke, Duxbury, Kingston, Halifax, Plympton, Carver and Plymouth. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.227.66.94 (talk • contribs) 09:57, September 5, 2009
Note: The previous text was moved from the article to the talk page for discussion. Sswonk (talk) 12:08, 5 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I think that something needs to be included on other towns that are referred to as being on the south shore. So many towns west of the definitive line have businesses that refer to "the South Shore" in their name in addition to the residents saying they live on the South Shore. Yeah, back in the 20th century the definition was limited to the actually shoreline communities, but nowadays its really expanded to include communities further from the ocean. After things like regional definitions are really contingent on the people that live in them. If the general consensus is that certain towns are on the South Shore, I think that should be included in this article. I'm referring to the Bridgewaters. An example would be Marylou's. There are locations in Bridgewater and East Bridgewater. Marylou's is such a South Shore staple. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.24.114.88 (talk) 17:53, 19 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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