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Any accusations against gen. Sosabowski were aimed on saving the "fame" of Montgomery even against the truth and at expense of anyone at hand. The Market-Garden was far above Monty's inelectual capacity, and Sosabowski only pointed out it's weeknesses. Monty, fully aware of shortages of military achievements, wanted to make final thrust, scoring at least 1 important victorious battle in his career in WW2. Monty's "victories" in Africa are third-rated achiements, against fifth-rated Axis units. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/91.94.37.184|91.94.37.184]] ([[User talk:91.94.37.184|talk]]) 23:51, 9 December 2008 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

Any accusations against gen. Sosabowski were aimed on saving the "fame" of Montgomery even against the truth and at expense of anyone at hand. The Market-Garden was far above Monty's inelectual capacity, and Sosabowski only pointed out it's weeknesses. Monty, fully aware of shortages of military achievements, wanted to make final thrust, scoring at least 1 important victorious battle in his career in WW2. Monty's "victories" in Africa are third-rated achiements, against fifth-rated Axis units. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/91.94.37.184|91.94.37.184]] ([[User talk:91.94.37.184|talk]]) 23:51, 9 December 2008 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


==General rank==

Which rank did gen. Sosabowski received, and from whom? The article stated that on June 15, 1944, he was promoted to [[Brigadier General]]. Was it by Polish or British? Looking at other wikipedia sources, Brigadier General rank was not used in the British Army after 1928, instead they used [[Brigadier (United Kingdom)|Brigadier]] rank (not considered to be a General Officer rank by the British Army).


Also, Polish [[General Brygady]] and UK [[Brigadier (United Kingdom)|Brigadier]] share the same OF-6 [[Ranks and insignia of NATO| NATO ranks]] right now. It looks that US [[Brigadier general (United States)|Brigadier General]] is equivalent to the previous two ranks. On the other hand, Polish [[General Dywizji]], UK [[Major general (United Kingdom)|Major General]] and US [[Major general (United States)|Major General]] are one level higher.


In [[Stanislaw Sosabowski]], and [[Operation Market Garden]] both Brigadier General and Major General are being used for gen. Sosabowski.


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Missing info?

Halibutt, nice work. Aren't their accounts that Sosabowski escaped from the germans after the fall of Poland?

Didn't Sosabowski land in France on or about D-Day? unsigned comment by an anonymous user

I don't think the 1st Independent Polish Parachute Brigade took part in Normandy. It and 1st Airborne were held in the UK while 6th Airborne were given the Airborne drops.

On the point of a neutral point of view, there is alot of ill feeling within the Airborne community both British, American and Polish about how some of the more able commanders were treated as scapegoats and that the blame for Market Garden should be placed squarely at Montgomery and Browning.

Regardless of not conforming to the neutral point of view policy, it remains an undeniable that Sosabowski was a very intelligent, courageous and skilful commander of men. Not only that but it is a fact that he was treated very badly after the war (as well as L.Col John Frost) in order to take the pressure off of the men who had really cocked up.

There is a line between altering an article to conform to a neutral point of view and altering an article to distort or hide the truth. If this article is changed in order to satisfy some modern PC idea of non-bias then we will have crossed that line. --Pudduh 13:09, 11 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yup, no 1st Bde at Normandy. And Sosabowski's escape from German-held Poland is quite well-explained in the article. //Halibutt 15:31, 11 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I noted that you failed to mention Gen. G.I. Thomas, he and sosabowski realy went at it during market garden

Any accusations against gen. Sosabowski were aimed on saving the "fame" of Montgomery even against the truth and at expense of anyone at hand. The Market-Garden was far above Monty's inelectual capacity, and Sosabowski only pointed out it's weeknesses. Monty, fully aware of shortages of military achievements, wanted to make final thrust, scoring at least 1 important victorious battle in his career in WW2. Monty's "victories" in Africa are third-rated achiements, against fifth-rated Axis units. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.94.37.184 (talk) 23:51, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

General rank

Which rank did gen. Sosabowski received, and from whom? The article stated that on June 15, 1944, he was promoted to Brigadier General. Was it by Polish or British? Looking at other wikipedia sources, Brigadier General rank was not used in the British Army after 1928, instead they used Brigadier rank (not considered to be a General Officer rank by the British Army).

Also, Polish General Brygady and UK Brigadier share the same OF-6 NATO ranks right now. It looks that US Brigadier General is equivalent to the previous two ranks. On the other hand, Polish General Dywizji, UK Major General and US Major General are one level higher.

InStanislaw Sosabowski, and Operation Market Garden both Brigadier General and Major General are being used for gen. Sosabowski.


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