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Article milestones Date Process Result March 9, 2005 Featured article candidate Not promoted January 19, 2006 Good article nominee Listed July 5, 2006 Good article reassessment Kept November 16, 2006 Featured article candidate Not promoted May 3, 2007 Good article reassessment Delisted June 11, 2007 Peer review Reviewed October 3, 2007 Good article nominee Not listed Current status: Delisted good article

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Section sizes Section size for The Holocaust (32 sections) Section name Byte count Section total (Top) 4,667 4,667 Terminology and scope 12,487 12,487 Background 4,659 4,659 Rise of Nazi Germany 2,691 7,979 Persecution of Jews 5,288 5,288 Start of World War II 3,970 7,726 Ghettoization and resettlement 3,756 3,756 Invasion of the Soviet Union 3,603 10,893 Mass shootings of Jews 7,290 7,290 Systematic deportations across Europe 2,085 19,367 Extermination camps 7,440 7,440 Liquidation of the ghettos in Poland 5,316 5,316 Deportations from elsewhere 4,526 4,526 Perpetrators and beneficiaries 3,754 3,754 Forced labor 5,695 5,695 Escape and hiding 2,921 2,921 International reactions 2,401 2,401 Second half of the war 27 5,463 Continuing killings 2,980 2,980 Death marches and liberation 2,456 2,456 Death toll 6,740 6,740 Aftermath and legacy 62 14,605 Return home and emigration 1,630 1,630 Criminal trials 2,093 2,093 Reparations 2,293 2,293 Remembrance and historiography 8,527 8,527 Notes 24 24 References 33 13,824 Works cited 18 13,791 Books 6,962 6,962 Book chapters 6,789 6,789 Journal articles 22 22 Total 123,205 123,205

Under "other victims of the Holocaust" I didn't see anything about people with disabilities. I am not an expert but I know some of the first "undesirables" to be killed in the eugenics movement were people with physical or mental differences. I came here to learn more about it. I'm not sure if that is within the definition of the Holocaust but I think at least there should be a link to an article about eugenics and/or medical experimentation. Thanks to all the contributors I learned a lot from this article. 184.10.199.16 (talk) 06:56, 24 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

You appear to be correct. Although the killing of people with disabilities is mentioned in the article in some places, it isn't included in the 'Other victims of Nazi persecution' section. We cover the topic in the Holocaust victims article, but I don't think that is at all sufficient. The topic should certainly be discussed to a greater extent here, not least because as historians have noted, such killings (as described in further detail in our article on the Aktion T4 program) were not only the first examples of systematic mass murder perpetrated by the Nazis, but may have acted as an ideological precursor - to have assisted them in their objectives in convincing the 'ordinary German' that such mass murder could be morally justified. AndyTheGrump (talk) 07:26, 24 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The word "killing" implies legal justification, rather, murder is more accurate to describe why the atrocities committed during that era were so terrible. There is a huge distinction between the term killing, and murder. Tonystinge (talk) 17:01, 28 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 17:03, 28 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, there is the notion that Hitler did not commit any Holocaust plans to writing due to the negative public repercussions of being criticized for T4, which he did sign off on; I believe I read it first in Joachim Fest, but I'm not sure. I found this source, however: https://digitalcommons.iwu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1170&context=constructing . Anyhow, I don't know if it is important enough to bring into the article (under the section dealing with e.g. T4), or maybe only over at the T4 article, or not at all. T 84.208.86.134 (talk) 07:11, 16 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]